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A Poet once made a daring move..

Dantes Wolf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-09-25 14:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Dantes Wolf
..He couldn't find a publisher for his poetry so he made the ultimate sacrifice: He called a furniture store, and became the first commercially funded poet to hit the shelves, ever, in the world.

At some point later, I wrote this:

EVE.. A universe 100% ruled and governed by corporations.. Corporations, that needs income and whom, in a myriad of different branches, all needs their costumers..

EVE Online.. An MMO, claiming to be about the above..

.. When I log in, I see; pretty stations, and stars.. some ships and.. One lonely Quafe commercial, sitting at the gates..

Where is my lore...?

Where are, the 1000's, if not tens of thousands billboards, flags and neon signs, that should make me, as a paying costumer, and character in this game, buy which ever product is advertised..? Where is the option, to spraypaint my new ship in vivid commercial colours, and get a reduction in my ship costs/insurance or other benefits..?

.. Where are the signs of LIFE in, and on, the stations..? Where are my tagged graffiti walls, my neon promenades (evolution of the incarna, please) Where is my "in game spam folder" asking me to buy this or that product, from this and that corp, in the game (preferebly some of these mails would have missions or jobs, and ISK rewards, related if/when you read them)?

Where are the signs, that people, and the Universe of EVE-Online does, in fact, have a history..?

EVE is beautiful but, she's a cold fish.. Make her breathe?

After which: "Amarisen Gream" answered this:

Maybe take this up a step. As a extra source of income. Allow RL companies to advertise products in game.
The basic setting would be a generalize ad system and allow players to turn on a localition system to get ads closer to home.

Could easily have a advert ship fly through your belt showing a picture of your alliance logo on t-shirt
Or food adverts ect.
Just force a very strict EVE theme on everything advertised.

Which, in my views, is a splendid idea, right down to the letter:

Arrow IF we get coca-cola, BMW, intell, Excon and so on and so forth, to produce commercials, streamlined for EVE's universe, CCP would see a massive financial growth, ending up in an EVE-sperience, that might hold so much more than at present, based on the sheer financial growth of the business.

Arrow This would, in return, give EVE so much more LIFE! and, in addition, open options for "sponsered corps": Imagine being PAID, possibly IRL dollars, because your killboards was so impressive, that Coca cola company would love to sponsor you, flying in red and white, while you grinded on the battlefield. - Imagine, flying passed a station, littered with commercials, all streamlined for EVE, blazing in flashy neon and sparkling bulps - Imagine.. that EVE, turned alive!

In game, in visuals, in development and in intensity: EVE, but super trimmed for the next generation.

Arrow In addition, like the "Pirrelli-Calendar" (a sports schedule with semi-nude posters - for workshops mostly), whom only hires the Best photographers to do their pictures, EVE-online could do the same: You'd have to be invited to advertise here, and only the best candidates gets chosen to do the actual adverts in the universe: Make it exclusive; "Wow, you're company is posting in EVE!?" and the whole world will want it. A fact which, beyond the sheer commercial value of the game itself, would boost member participation to the game by, in local linger, a F*ckton.

This might be too bold, too daring, too risky, too new, but.. isn't EVE about new frontiers, and aren't we, the gamers, who love her?

Imo, this idea might, very well, be the future of EVE-Online, but lemme hear your views.


"Before you diagnose yourself with low selfesteem and depression, you should first make sure, that you are not just, in fact, surrounded by assholes".

Leto Aramaus
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#2 - 2015-09-25 14:46:23 UTC
I would be completely fine with in-game product placement, but it could never be done without breaking lore and being silly. I would even much prefer that to free2play+pay2win that some people say EVE should become, but...

We can never have:
"Audi warp drives"
"Mistubishi shield boosters"
or "Toyota shuttles"

because EVE takes place in another galaxy, tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of years in the future. The current civilizations in EVE pretty much re-evolved from nothing and none of those companies could feasibly be around anymore. To include them would be ridiculous.

I guess... if we just say "F*ck it who cares" and rename Kaalakiota to Kawasaki, and "The Scope" to "Comcast", and it rakes in millions for EVE development (IF it was used to actually improve the game and not just add more T3 garbage)... then I guess it would be worth it.

Still no thank you.
Dantes Wolf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-09-25 15:04:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Dantes Wolf
I sat here, agreeing, but.. then it hit me: "Lorefriendliness"?

"You're not hearing voices, We're inside of you: Intell - computing brainpower for the last 15 millenia" (for the implants)

"Coca Cola, for when tired of the usual killer-bubbles" ( you know, the softdrink and the interdictionspheares)

"We put the R'amen in the Amen - Holy-soup-noodles, best from Amarr, and your local supermarket" (made up, but you get the idea)

"Returning from New Eden? - See the whole of The Old World, Lufthansa" - you know, the airline.

"Broke on ISK's? Go see's EVE-inspired jackpots"

And so on and so forth.

These ideas are kinda crude, but with the "invite only" and a marketing directly aimed at New Eden, it might see potential.


"Before you diagnose yourself with low selfesteem and depression, you should first make sure, that you are not just, in fact, surrounded by assholes".

Leto Aramaus
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#4 - 2015-09-25 15:09:13 UTC

all these are ridiculous because Earth's civilization is 50k+ years old in a different galaxy.

Just doesn't work unless we decide to not care at all about lore friendliness and non-sillyness.

I wouldn't HATE this kind of stuff if it brought in tons of money for EVE, but it's definitely silly and should be avoided unless it makes BOATLOADS of cash.
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#5 - 2015-09-25 15:09:21 UTC
I find it bad enough that I go through RL bombarded with advertising, the prospect of being bombarded with it whilst in EvE does not thrill me.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#6 - 2015-09-25 15:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Initially I was kinda apathetic about this idea... but as I started thinking about it I am kinda leaning towards, "Noooooooo."

My reasoning is simple;
When you find a new source of income it is awesome... until the income source starts making demands... which it will do once it figures you depend on it.

Players may be a bit toxic from time to time, but their demands are rather simple; make a great and entertaining game.

Companies that are advertising may say nice things, but their demands are to have the best and most obvious placement possible, regardless of how it might appear to others (see: they don't care about the game itself). And if you don't do what they say they can pull that pretty funding you now rely on (yes, this actually happens in the real world).
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#7 - 2015-09-25 16:59:25 UTC
Okay I bite.

Maybe Quafe shouldn't be the only advertising company in New Eden but if we were to have the other companies advertise something like Ishkone or LaiDai there would be a lot of time spent in making these commercials to be shown on the billboards, time that would rather be spend in other things that need attention.

So maybe just maybe if nothing major needs attention we can ask for commercials on the billboards. Something like advertising ships or implants or even corporation adds.

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