Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You can't misuse a war Dec. They serve no purpose other than to allow fighting between one Corp and another and they serve that purpose. The last dev blogs on war decs will even tell you that the devs deliberately avoided giving wardecs a purpose beyond that point because they wanted players to use them as they wish. This is the same dev blog that also tells you that grief decs are not rife and that they wanted wardecs to be harder to get out of for both sides.

If people want to wardec your inactive accounts then let them. Its their money.

Scanning through and this part caught my attention.
You claim that combat PvP is the most defining form of PvP in the game and I would counter that is simply not the truth. The non-combat PvP is THE defining form of PvP in the game because that non-combat PvP is what provides you with ships and fittings to be able to enjoy the combat PvP. Your statement that combat PvP is THE defining form of PvP would only be true if you were all flying around in space fighting each other with the free rookie ships exactly as the game gifts them to you.

If you doubt this all one has to do is look to nul. Alliances battle to take or hold territory so they have the industrial (non-combat PvP) ability to produce the ships fittings needed to defend or take territory. In this EvE is very much like the real world, ones ability to fight is directly related to and controlled by ones ability to afford the materials of war.

Do not mistake all the marketing hype from CCP as a declaration of what is most important in this game. CCP knows what brings players into the game and they put out marketing materials that cater to that need. And then all those players get into the game and find out that without a source of ISK (non-combat PvP) ones ability to fight ends very quickly.

In the end CCP has this game really well balanced out in that regard. Like it or not the non-combat PvP players need the combat PvP players, and yet those combat PvP players need the non-combat PvP players as well.

Yes I know this is somewhat off topic but it is relevant.
So to get back on topic I will simply say this about war decs.
CCP needs to take a long hard look at the whole situation and figure out what to do because it does not work well for either side.
Proof of this can be seen in this and evey other war dec topic that comes up, one side wants war dec's nerfed out of the game and the other side complains that those who they WD should be forced to fight instead of being able to dodge them.

It is really funny. Argue that you are right for the exact reason that you are wrong.

Tipical "Caldari" democrat discourse.

The other one, in the tipical Amarr discourse, saying that "it is because I believe it is".

You cant call on argument when a person just dont want to think, instead repeating the same thing over and over.

"PvP is not what eve material says. PvP is not any instance of player versus player. PvP Is what I say, and EVE is what I do. mine mine mine, you need to like, do and think what I want because I cant go around big words."

That is what makes ISK and everything so easy for everyone else.

Then, they come on the other front:

We want people to be free to do whatever they want. The Caldari/Amarr idealogists call us "selfish" because we dont want them to have the freedom to make others do what they want and play the way they want.

It is only fun go around trolling, but no serious issue can be rised in this section of the forum if it is not what they want you to say.

So... what brings people into the game isn't important? Just because you don't like it?

Carebears are literally insane. You genuinely want CCP to neuter the primary reason that anyone installs this damned game in the first place. What in the **** is wrong with you? You're openly admitting that you want to kill the game.

You seem to contradict yourself there.
Elite players say combat is dull.
Non-elite players say combat is its weakest feature.

I wouldn't say that combat is the weakest feature. It's just not strong enough to be capable of sustaining the game without help from the rest of game content. EVE isn't really "specialist game", but it's very good at being jack of all trades and interconnection between all those trades is an important part. I'd say that wardec mech is one of those important connections here though.


It's called dedicated chat channels for the most part and this approach is widely used tbh.

A like the idea of an alternative Corp all together.

Same tax as npc corps, no assets, no wardec, etc etc but has all the social functions of a corp. Mail lists, killboard, name, ticker, standings and so On.

You had between 3 pages, 2 people consistently saying precise that which you say there is no one saying.

You have pages in the internet saying exactly what you say I am wrong in stating.

And, If you see no reason in what I say, simply dont answer. Your importance given to what I say just shows how concerned you are about the sense it makes.

If it is indeed so wrong as you say, the time you take answering it just tell exactly why you do.

But from now on I will ignore you and whatever you say, but feel free to keep answering what I dont direct to you as if it was. Posts hidden. Have a nice day.

An interesting consequence of wardecs is that Concord earns a lot of isk which makes Concord more powerful. Thinking about this I understand why one cannot attack npc corporations. They're affiliated with the empires in some way and since the empires control Concord, it won't allow them to be wardecced.

If there at one point is a change in wardecs system, maybe it could have some relevance to the empires standings. A higher standing with an empire, a higher cost or more difficult to wardec, because the empires value your corp and influences concord to charge more or make it more difficult to wardec your corp.

I don't think it should be cheap, but not excessively expensive.