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A claim in a thread was made about Battleship nerfing... ?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#21 - 2015-09-24 00:10:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tippia wrote:

They can already Tokyo drift — do you really need to make them faster or furiouser?

There is no such thing as too fast too furious.

Are we talking about the movies or more as a philosophy along with “nuff dakka”?

I mean, it's true either way, but it's good to know in which way it's true.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-09-24 00:25:55 UTC
Ahh, dakka. The biggest illusion... coincidentally, when I played 40k years back, I was an ork player so dakka vs damage is something I am quite familiar with.

We really have to get rid of this concept of "DPS" in eve. We have to focus on applied DPS. Things right now just cover TOO much range on what and how well they hit. An ideal mechanic, there would be no ideal. There is cause. If you are a small fleet, there might be average weapons, but if you fit a uniform fleet, the larger you get, the more weakness you present if you don't focus on a more organized dynamic.

Each ship class (frigate, destroyer, battleship etc) should have some core premise. damage and tank. That is a guarantee for all. Speed is a tank, as is range. If you fit all battleships, well bombers will kite you all day. If you are fit for close range and tracking, need to be out sniped. Eve really has to get away from blob is best. Blob is viable, but tactics need to be better. This way a medium fleet would have a couple squads of battleships for whatever the chosen role, then smaller ships are support. It could be your cruisers are for the damage and your battleships are point defence, or make it so the versa can be true as well.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2015-09-24 01:00:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Tippia wrote:

They can already Tokyo drift — do you really need to make them faster or furiouser?

There is no such thing as too fast too furious.

Are we talking about the movies or more as a philosophy along with “nuff dakka”?

I mean, it's true either way, but it's good to know in which way it's true.


Both.
Melody Axon
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#24 - 2015-09-24 02:32:17 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Joia Crenca wrote:
There was a rant that included Battleships being nerfed soon.


Any chance to share original source of that rant?


Found it. The guy's a loop.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=447621&find=unread
Ddolik
Bohemian Veterans
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2015-09-24 16:27:32 UTC
Hochopepa wrote:
The problem with battleships has always been, not the power, but the ability to effectively utilize them in mobile fleet scenarios. Take for instance, a roaming gang of 10 ships, cruisers, frigs, even bc's. If 1 guy is flying a BS, he's going to be the last to warp, the last to arrive and the last to lock a target, generally speaking. Then, depending on what he's in and what the other ships are, he might even be lower on the damage dealt/dps spectrum than others.

Now, with that being said, BS's have their strengths in fleet engagements where sustained DPS and HP come into play.

I would love to see BS's get a boost to their ability to work better in gang setups as well as a reduction in production costs.


i had to give you thump up
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