EVE General Discussion

There was a rant that included Battleships being nerfed soon. I was interested as to whether this was so, and have looked through Dev logs, but haven't found any info on Battleships.


So my question is whether there indeed has been any news about upcoming Battleship changes? (I'm not in favor of nerfing them, however. )

I was there.

Battleships have steadily seemed to be nerfed as "improvements" to other ships progressed making the stats sort of funny in relation to one another. That is, in the period following the introduction of the T3 assault cruiser which all but replaced the battleship, (causing some people to *smack forehead* wondering how someone could take such a significant item as a BATTLESHIP and make it INCONSEQUENTIAL in the main.)

Far be it from me to spread rumors, but scuttlebutt has it that the BS is in some kind of line to get its recalibration. However, some things are difficult to believe. It's a lot like fixing old plumbing. Tighten up that new fix and a new leak pops up further down the line. Fix it...sproing again. Just think, by the time they've "adjusted" all the ship classes, the ratios between them will be what they were before they were "fixed", only all the stats will be incrementally higher. Pretzel logic.

I saw the same post and noticed it too. I don't know which nerf was referred to. Kinda ignored it.

I have a theory tho:

All warpchanges had interesting effects on ships up to cruiser size. Battleships are now very slow with like 1.5 AU or something. Only the Machariel still has "normal" warp speed as part of its bonus.

To put things into perspective: We have titans that are faster.

As far as I'm aware all BS warp at 2 au/s while T2 battleships warp at 2.2 au/s. Machariel, having a 50% role bonus to warp speed warps at 3 AU/s, same as T1 cruisers. T2 cruisers 3.3 base, apart again, from the angel cruiser (cynabal) again having a 50% role bonus. Nestor looks like it has a built in 25% bonus to warp speed (no role bonus from what I can see) as it has a base warp speed of 2.5 au/s

All Titans warp at 1.4 au/s base.

Interesting thing to not is that there are Command ships that have higher DPS than most BS so yea, it'd be good to see some love for BS ships. That said BS have a huge advantage in combining tank, damage, and most importunately range. Drone(sentry) ships kind of muck it up a bit but sometimes things are not clear cut :P

The problem with battleships has always been, not the power, but the ability to effectively utilize them in mobile fleet scenarios. Take for instance, a roaming gang of 10 ships, cruisers, frigs, even bc's. If 1 guy is flying a BS, he's going to be the last to warp, the last to arrive and the last to lock a target, generally speaking. Then, depending on what he's in and what the other ships are, he might even be lower on the damage dealt/dps spectrum than others.

Now, with that being said, BS's have their strengths in fleet engagements where sustained DPS and HP come into play.

I would love to see BS's get a boost to their ability to work better in gang setups as well as a reduction in production costs.

Oh absolutely, I agree with that as well. I think they are both aspects of the same thing in that the role really needs to be looked at.

Problem with battleships isn't the hulls or the weapons but the pilots.

That's because battleships are for Sissies.

They can already Tokyo drift — do you really need to make them faster or furiouser?