Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So after *carefully* considering it for a bit, i think a decent way to go about super cap rebalance would be to give them modes. Each of these modes should be useful for a variety of situations, and give valuable and unique play styles to both titans and supercarriers.
My reasoning for this stands: In the absence of applicable content for supercapitals, their roles need to be expanded to retain their usefulness

TITANS

Staging mode:

Ship becomes immobile, and extends its shields as a bubble

Gains the ability to act as a fleet beacon, allowing for ships to jump to it without the need for a cyno

5000% increase in shield capacity

Cannot be activated within a 50km radius of another ship (including during activation process)

Takes 10 minutes to activate, can mode swap back during activation process (resets timer)

Doomsday mode

Can use Doomsday module

500% damage bonus to racial weapon (ship hull loses the 100% damage per level bonus as it currently stands anyway, so damage bonus is only in this mode)

Superiority mode:

1000% tracking speed bonus, damage reduction to subcaps removed (no damage bonus included, so dps remains within acceptable margins for subcap engagements)

All titans get their damage bonuses removed in favor of a 10% optimal range bonus per level (leviathan gets missile velocity and full citadel missile damage bonus instead of kinetic lock). All XL weapons get a 25% damage increase.




SUPERCARRIERS

Staging mode

Same mode bonuses as with titan's staging mode

Purveyor mode

50% reduction to jump fatigue

50% increase in jump range

Flagship mode

100% bonus to fighter and fighter-bomber max speed

30% bonus to the effectiveness of warfare links



Each of these modes are designed around specific roles, without necessarily focusing so much on bonuses as we see with the T3 destroyers. Staging mode could be complemented with a basic flat increase in hangar capacity for both titans and supercarriers, while each mode for both classes would have a full minute cooldown time. I would like these abilities to be reflective of the skill and cost investment that goes into supercapitals, and to give them all clear usefulness. For now, i'd be reticent about giving carriers and dreadnoughts modes, although i am open to the idea.

Please let me know if any of these stats should be adjusted. I would like to state that large increase in tracking speed for titans puts them at around battleship-level tracking speeds, which i thought was acceptable. Similarly, the large shield increase puts it in line with current shield hp levels on large starbases, albeit a little bit more in the case of ships like the Leviathan.

NOTE: Forgot to mention active hardeners can't apply to the ships in Staging mode.

What problems/limitations do supers and titans currently have that this proposal fixes?

I don't see any.

Do you have a better idea? This fixes a great deal of their inflexibility and lack of options. Currently the issue that they face is a lack of content options, not necessarily so much problems with the ships themselves being broken. Giving them more playstyle options is a logical and valid choice to make in balance in the absence of viable content, which was removed with fozzie sov.

First off, damage bonus in doomsday mode is actually the same as it is right now for bonuses. So unless you don't have any interest in training past amarr titan 1 to take advantage of the 100% damage bonus per level they currently get that totals up to 500%, then not really much changes other than people who get into the biggest ships in the game being able to use them much better when they are first getting into them.

The Staging mode is meant to replace the function of a starbase, as those are going away with the introduction of the new structure meta. I *actually* used math and so the shield values are fairly consistent with the HP of a a large starbase, and the restrictions for setting it up apply similiarly so as not to abuse it in the middle of a battlefield.

Purveyor mode applies well for a supercarrier as a flagship vessel role since it gives it greater projection ability and subsequently better ability to project its core role as a fleet support vessel.

Okay, so, when am I going to use an extremely vulnerable POS then.

or a 100b battleship.

While I'm sure your heart is in the right place really you would be better off studying Manfred Sideous's excellent Capitals and Supers Rebalance Suggestions thread.

He has years of experience with capitals and supers both as an FC and as a pilot and most of the thread is well worth the time it takes to read.

When am I going to want to spend 100b on a worse POS, when I can use either a POS or a citadel to do it better?

Why am I going to want to spend 100b on a ship that does damage equivalent to that of a battleship?