EVE New Citizens Q&A

Yo yo, so i'm not completely new to EVE. I've.... 'played' EVE. I feel like somebody will understand that. By no means am I a terror of the stars nor fat cat swimming in ISK. I made a character, kind of just going through the motions. Scanning doing relic sites and random low level missions with fantasies of being a stealth bomber and doing things of that nature. But I got busy and lost sight of playing in the stars! and MMOs are stale and boring now, roles are narrow yet I know EVE is there offering countless options no matter what your desire. so.....

I wanted to start fresh and I wanted to haul. Move your stuff, your ammo, your ships, your things to help make other things explode for some greater good, misguided or not. It wouldn't be my business anyway. Ive always been like har har pvp and fighting people but what if I supplied the people fighting. I hate having dirty hands now that I think about it. But if the ISK is there, why not.

Planetary Interaction looks interesting as does industry/manufacturing as a whole. How and where should I start? Im going to go Gallente (on the new character) and just doing the rookie industry/mining missions to get those ships and get at it. Eventually work to freighter, get skills pertaining to tanking and stuff, I guess there is a basic set of skills I will need to get to be effective. I have some paltry amount of ISK on my first character I made which I can use I guess, and some ships too.

If I am gallente but have the proper freighter skills can I pilot other freighters from other races? I have lots of questions but I don't want to muddy up a huge opening post here. Maybe one day I could find a corp and learn the ropes better. I feel some trail and error solo play will be beneficial to learning however.

So yeah, correct me and point me in directions. Im interested in hauling and I guess I will need some sort of income for collateral and what not. I see people saying you need alts for contracts or something but I don't think im at that level yet. But I figured PI would help for that, industry/manufacturing. I guess mining could be fun but that seems like a totally different skill path. but i can still gain ISK from NPC hauling missions and possibly more from player contracts correct?

Dont know what else to say maybe ill ask more questions later, thank you! And this wont be said character. I need to make it later, I just wanted to see if anybody had knowledge to offer, thanks! sorry for the wall of txt o7

The big isk with hauling comes in regional arbitrage. Buy low in one region, move to another and sell high. Some opportunities might not even involve leaving the region. Most player made courier contracts are way over collateralized, and under pay. I would use them to move stuff, but I wouldn't ever try to take one. Currently in jita the highest reward for a courier to amarr is 15m on a 2b collateral. I'm not sure how exactly is best to quantify courier contracts isk per jump, or isk per m3, or some sort of ratio of reward to collateral? Any way I look at it, just not worth it to me. I can usually make way more than a few million by moving billions. I'd say the main risk is ganking, but there is also some risk of not being able to sell the goods for a good price and losing isk that way. Although with a little research and the right items that shouldn't happen too often.

if you are going to do courier contracts joining red frog might be the best idea. they require a certain level of reward, and cap collateral.

if you can fly one freighter, you are very close to being able to fly the other ones, I think all you have to train is racial industrial to 3, and then racial freighter to 1. It however seems a lot easier to me to find one freighter and stick with it, but there are slight advantages to each one.

You can always work for one of the player hauler corps like Red Frog.

I think the way Red Frog works is you have an alt in Red Frog but your hauler is in your own corp or an NPC corp.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfrogrecruiting/prerequisites-for-pilots

Note that I have heard it can take a fair while to actually get accepted.

Some fun stories from another newbro hauler (kind of old now but still make you smile).

I looked into get a freighter to move my stuff around, but do not yet have the skills or isk for such an endeavor. Not much interesting in squeezing out the profits and would rather spend a few million isk to move my stuff. The risk on my own would be a loss to me. At least with collateral, I would either get my stuff and or my isk back. Always the adventure when you undock.

This might just be my opinion but I'm pretty sure that you figure out what you like by trying stuff not reading about stuff. However I guess you could read about things to try.

Player corps can be very helpful to new players in helping them learn the game. Of course the wrong player corp could also be like an anchor around your neck dragging you down.

Corp or no corp I think most new players need vets that they can talk to real time to get answers and feed back as they go. So regardless of if you join player corp or just make friends and get in some public chat channels I recommend getting access to vets and friends to play with.

right? it would take much planning, ass kissing and cleverness but im sure it could be done. doing such things solo would seem impossible. but im possible. i am sure there are corps out there that do just this.

i was figuring gallente simply for all the versatility of their movers. itll be like driving lamp posts.

@ergherhdfgh totally, sometimes vets seem almost too eager to help out in game. some (of the more knowledge filled vets) you have to coax a little to get info from. those i like talking to.