Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bad idea, very bad idea.

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1) Please explain to the rest of us how you jumped from "your suggestion is not helping the community" to "content generation is bad?".... Cuz from where I'm sitting, you'll have to prove that unsubbed accounts generate eve content first.... Maybe you have some magical source that would dispel our disbelief while balancing the books at the same time?

2) Vets are leaving Eve because of the direction of the game / nerfs to their play styles / changes in ship roles / sov systems. Giving them nerfed albeit free access to a game they no longer enjoy is not going to cause a spike in online connections. Again, source to substantiate your claim?

3) Star Citizen much?

A free 2 play eve beyond the PLEX mechanism would be the death of the game as a whole.

Allowing players to use unsubscribed characters in the game would wreak havoc not only on the markets but in all areas of the game.

Well meant but horrible idea.

Also throwing in with a big, fat "hellll nawwwww!"

there are a few issues that would have to be worked out.

1 control of alts, limiting via IP could be an answer but might affect users at colleges or other locations.
2 improving the use of plex, if players can play for free they can reach their skill goals and just stop paying, this means less $ for CCP unless CCP can convince players to use plex for more things. This incentivizes the use of Plex to make up for lost income from long time subscribers who are no longer skilling their characters.
3 population control, CCP would need to hire a lot more support staff to handle the larger volume of players. This is important to keep players happy. Further hardware would have to be able to handle a potentially massive influx of players

This would take a pretty large amount of planning as well as time to actually implement, not only that but CCP would have to discuss this at LEAST with the CSM if not the entire playerbase of eve before implementing to avoid another summer of rage.

It's a touchy subject and given the work needed for the change I doubt it's something on CCPs mind, at least until their current short term plan is finalized and players have their own player built stargates.

Lets all just get max SP and everything is free too while we are at it....

If for no other reason, this will fail because you can't lock people out of the game if they want in bad enough. They'll lie on their billing information, use proxies, and all kinds of other fun things. CCP and the ISDs have almost certainly got enough trouble with this kind of thing from people who pay to play the game.

As an 8 year bittervet with a quarter billion sp spread across four accounts (RL has interfered with my ability to play at times over the years), I would also quit if EvE went F2P.

not even scaled down.....hell i would happily pay up to $60-$80 for an EvE stand alone 4x game that had every aspect of this mmo in it. Imagine a cross between Sins of Solar Empire and GalCiv3.....only it would be EvE....then add the ability to play with others hotseat or LAN.....i would bet that would put some money into CCP's pockets.....and maybe blow all those indiedevelopers on Steam into dust.

woot woot! all my massive #'s of mining alts are trained up as far as i need them, why skill more if i don't have to? free free free isk for me, and all i need to do is plex... 0 accounts? IP limitations mean nothing to me, or any other nerd/geek worth his salt. Oh, i could plex one account, have something to shoot others with, but otherwise I'd do my best to make the market for low level mins worthless, cause i can sell so much lower than anyone else...

oh wait, everyone else can do that too. All market items would lose a crapload of their value as people don't need to grind isk to get plex with, although the isk value of plex would drop as well. For a wonder, if people don't have to pay to play THEY WONT pay, and avoiding paying CCP would be the new emergent gameplay.

Then there would be the expected influx of freetards, bringing back a flavor of the past no one wants: The eternal September.
google it. Eve is one of the few games that reward hard work, craftiness, long term planning, opportunism, law breaking/enforcement and tenacity.

F2p games reward none of the above, f2p games want to charge you $ in lieu of having to do any of those activities which generate content for others simply by being there doing those activities. F2p games and gamers are the most fickle examples of games and gamers, we need none of their sort or their sport.