Missions & Complexes

Would replacing codebreakre with omnidriectional and focusing exclusively on combat sites be worth it? 38km optimal on guardes is very sweet

Radar sites are definitely worth it. a single Radar in nullsec can yield you 20-100mill. in lowsec, ive made about 60mill doing a 2-3 casually. from my experience, 400dps from Wardens (plus another 130 from the blasters) is overkill for any BS. i prefer Gardes for Serpentis or 2-shotting any cruiser/bc rat, and a single omni would not help much.




maybe, but it requires some time, commitment and skill to make the Ishtar work in nullsec it's definitely something to aim for.




generally you'd want to prevent this situation by scanning for combat probes or being extra cautious while doing anomalies (i dont like doing them in busy pipes). let's say you were not able to avoid this. if it's not a recon or cloaky t3, you'll see him on the directional scan as hes approaching. this is a good time to warp out. if youre perfectly aligned, and you see him dropping out of warp, you have about 3 seconds before the warp animation completes and you're locked. if a cloaky t3 or recon uncloaks beside you, you will get locked very quickly and bumped off alignment. at this point you have to sic your ECM drones on him and try to warp out before his buddies arrive. if you dont have ECM drones, and you were not able to prevent him uncloaking next to you, you cant do much except try to kill him.


thanks, and like my first few posts if you liked the guide so it stays on the first page

Ive been trying my hand at some exploration lately, and i could use some advice.
This char is trained for amarr, and some drones.
In LS ive tried a pilgrim, but its extremely slow going because it can only use medium drones.
Then there is the added difficulty that i am looking for blood raider and sanshas plexes exclusively, so active tanking is hard to do.


Could you think of any amarr (or any laser based like blood or sansha) that would do well in the same assortment of plexes as that Ishtar of yours? (i have a scanalt who has all the hacking equipment, so every slot is available on the ship running the plex.

Tbh, the best i could do was a semi expensive legion, who had a hard time under neuts :(

a speed tanked Zealot and the Legion would be your best options unfortunately, with the Sacrilege being close behind (although limited by ammo). a speed-tanked Sac would have an amazing tank against Angels and would do decent dps with HAM's.

Blood Raider plexes are a ***** because of the neuts if youre going the Zealot/Legion route, you're best off doing C3's (something the Ishtar cant do well).

sorry i couldnt be of more help.

Ninja Plexing in Guristas space is fun and extremely profitable. And you get the added bonus of sticking it to those meddlesome Goonies.

Don't forget to use expensive implants to make your active tanked 2000 ehp Ishtar plow through those plexes even faster.

Incorrect. There are a number of 10/10 which can be soloed, but most of them require a well fitted marauder or faction BS, and those are neither cheap nor very sneaky. A noteable exception is the 10/10 Serpentis plex, which can be soloed in a tengu or an ishtar without a problem. But... it is 10/10 afterall, so it requires time. I would say between 1,5 and 2,5 hours, depending on your setup and whether you do the side rooms or not. So naturally, there is a greater chance that somebody will pass through the system and get interested in you.

If somebody warps to you, you got about 2-4 sec. from the moment you see them on your overview until the moment they can start locking you. Then there are another 1-3 sec before they actually get the lock (depends on the ship). So if you are perfectly aligned and somebody warps to you, you have plenty of time to warp off to a safespot or a celestial. Of course, that’s assuming that you are awake and you are paying attention to what happens on your screen.

As far as I know, warp speed rigs don’t increase the speed with which you exit warp. However, smaller ships seem to be exiting warp faster than larger ships – I am not 100% sure of that though, it’s just a feeling that I get.

If somebody decloaks close to you – a covert recon, covert t3 ship, or a covert ops frigate - you have 4 to 6 sec before he locks you. That’s more than enough time to escape if you are aligned and paying attention. If you are buzzing around with an afterburner on, it will be VERY DIFFICULT for a recon or a covert t3 ship to sneak up on you and bump you off alignment. Their speed while cloaked is 2-3 times slower than your speed with an AB on, so getting in a good position for a bump is quite hard. Covert frigates can be quite fast while remaining cloaked, but they are fragile and you can easily jam them with ECM or kill them with light drones (if the frigate has a covert cyno, you better warp off before you get locked ). As the OP already said, keep an eye out for probes. Another thing, not sure if it was mentioned already - remove wrecks and cans from your overview. It’s easy to miss a decloaking enemy when your overview is full of crap.

An important note about decloaking enemies: Stealth bombers are the only ship which can warp to you cloaked and then lock you down in a second after decloaking. Their tank is miserable, but with the right setup they can still hold you down long enough for their buddies to arrive. So watch out for those. If a bomber gets a tackle on you and then you see local going up, don’t bother setting light drones on it – get the ECMs out and try to jam it.


QFT. If you get shot at or you try to warp inside a bubble, you start an aggro timer – 15 minutes. You log off before those 15 minutes expire, your ship stays in space for another 15.

Also, unless they have recently changed timers – your ship stays in space for 2 min. after you log off, not 1. Gate cloak drops after 30 sec. not 60.

A nice guide overall. +1

well, i guess i was referring to the Ishtar alone. i dont think i'd recommend sneaking in a marauder. and you must mean a passive shield Ishtar? this sort of setup would not allow for dual prop needed for sneaking and speed/sig tanking. my active Ishtar definitely cant handle anything more than an 8/10. is there a setup i'm missing?





good to know. never ran into a tackle stealth bomber.



Thanks, great corrections and tips. i did mean to write 30secs for the gate cloak .

Angry Bees section greatly revised!

keep your setups as cheap as possible (t2, meta 4 only). wear cheap implants in case your ship gets popped inside of a bubble. practice your coordination lots in quiet lowsec. and you wont end up on the receiving end of this mouthbreather's KM

but yes, i fully agree. Guristas plexes are by far the easiest, and Gurista space has yielded me billions. Stay away from the congested regions though. bye Goonie, thx for the bump

i dont have any experience with Matar ships, but i can comment on a few things. to safely do lowsec plexing, you need two utility highs, one for probe launcher, other for cloak. to tank nullsec plexes, you need an AB, but you also need the MWD to survive.

Vaga can handle lowsec plexes if you're willing to risk getting caught in a gate camp (without the cloak because you cant fit it, unless you wanna drop one turret). for nullsec, you may be able to do it in a dual MAR Hurricane, but i cant guarantee the mwd-cloak-warp trick will work on a heavy ship. and the Cane does not have T2 resists, so you would be greatly limited by that.

the reason HAC's are ideal is they can sig-speed tank a lot of incoming DPS. Your best bet would actually be the Muninn, but DPS will suck. the main issue with all three ships, however, is that you'll have to aggro the ENTIRE plex because of your poor range. Loki would do well because tank would be good, but you'll end up in an expensive loss mail sooner or later.

for now, i would recommend low sec until you know what you're doing 110%, have alts, and can comfortably use the Loki.

can u suggest any amarr ship for doing this type of thing. I was thinking and i cant think of any. Pilgrim is nice but his dps is just too poor for anything big aswell as his tank. Is the only option here really only T3?

Good guide. fly safe