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I would pay Aur for skillpoint reassignment.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#41 - 2012-01-04 16:25:18 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
I would pay Aur to biomass you.


liked you for a moment for a good comment then removed the like when I saw you wearing the quisling monocle of MT suckitude.


Monocle tears best tears...and a billion ISK is well spent.


hmmm.

your monocle evidently makes you see tears where they are not. most likely from your own socket.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-01-04 16:26:14 UTC
I agree with most of the people on this post, its generally a bad idea.
My one augmented idea, is that there should be away to dedicate time to a grind, in order to achieve either reallocation or earning additional skill points. On one end its a competitive imbalance, older players lose there competitive edge over younger players. However, it would also be a competitive balance, my 30 mil sp characters can compete sooner with the 80 mil sp characters. I don't know though, chuck it into the same bin as an isk sink. Its an idea a lot of people recognize as something to some day confront, but no great ideas have been presents.

Id suggest something like isk+standings+missions+lp = new or reallocated skill points. And make the trade off, once you reallocate, you lose your standings and have to rebuild them, Make people regrind level 2 and 3 missions. This way time actually has to be invested, not just more resources which are abundant to older players. Also, regrinding level 2 missions is not appealing at all considering i make 100+ mil an hour in nullsec, so it would be a true investment and sacrifice of other isk i would be making.

Its a tough dilema though.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
lior narkis
Massive Dynamic weapons
#43 - 2012-01-04 16:28:05 UTC
THAT thread AGAIN.

No no and no again...
Velicitia
XS Tech
#44 - 2012-01-04 16:37:51 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
I agree with most of the people on this post, its generally a bad idea.
My one augmented idea, is that there should be away to dedicate time to a grind, in order to achieve either reallocation or earning additional skill points. On one end its a competitive imbalance, older players lose there competitive edge over younger players. However, it would also be a competitive balance, my 30 mil sp characters can compete sooner with the 80 mil sp characters. I don't know though, chuck it into the same bin as an isk sink. Its an idea a lot of people recognize as something to some day confront, but no great ideas have been presents.

Id suggest something like isk+standings+missions+lp = new or reallocated skill points. And make the trade off, once you reallocate, you lose your standings and have to rebuild them, Make people regrind level 2 and 3 missions. This way time actually has to be invested, not just more resources which are abundant to older players. Also, regrinding level 2 missions is not appealing at all considering i make 100+ mil an hour in nullsec, so it would be a true investment and sacrifice of other isk i would be making.

Its a tough dilema though.


bolded the wrong part.

Seriously, the only thing an 80m SP toon has over you is versatility. If you've focused your training, it's very possible that you have just as many (if not more) SP in your chosen focus than the 80m SP guy.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#45 - 2012-01-04 16:55:28 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
I would pay Aur to biomass you.


liked you for a moment for a good comment then removed the like when I saw you wearing the quisling monocle of MT suckitude.


Monocle tears best tears...and a billion ISK is well spent.


hmmm.

your monocle evidently makes you see tears where they are not. most likely from your own socket.


You seem mad.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#46 - 2012-01-04 17:45:29 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
I agree with most of the people on this post, its generally a bad idea.
My one augmented idea, is that there should be away to dedicate time to a grind, in order to achieve either reallocation or earning additional skill points. On one end its a competitive imbalance, older players lose there competitive edge over younger players. However, it would also be a competitive balance, my 30 mil sp characters can compete sooner with the 80 mil sp characters. I don't know though, chuck it into the same bin as an isk sink. Its an idea a lot of people recognize as something to some day confront, but no great ideas have been presents.

Id suggest something like isk+standings+missions+lp = new or reallocated skill points. And make the trade off, once you reallocate, you lose your standings and have to rebuild them, Make people regrind level 2 and 3 missions. This way time actually has to be invested, not just more resources which are abundant to older players. Also, regrinding level 2 missions is not appealing at all considering i make 100+ mil an hour in nullsec, so it would be a true investment and sacrifice of other isk i would be making.

Its a tough dilema though.


bolded the wrong part.

Seriously, the only thing an 80m SP toon has over you is versatility. If you've focused your training, it's very possible that you have just as many (if not more) SP in your chosen focus than the 80m SP guy.


This. If you can just re-spec to max your skills in a particular area upon needing that area, it makes having high SP rather worthless.

It also encourages flavor-of-the-month crap. How would it be if every dumb player who shat a brick at the Gallente buff respecced to Gallente for Crucible? There would be no more point to specializing and learning how to use your ships if you can just go and use whatever is "best" at that moment.

Alternatively, suppose you just chased a war target in his expensive Rattlesnake into a station. You think you have him cornered, and are confident you can take on whatever Caldari or Gallente battleship he might bring out to challenge you. Then he suddenly comes out in a Bhaalgorn. Very few players under the current skill system would be able to do this, but with skill respeccing, this would be very common.

tl;dr: no.

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fido gotran over
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-01-04 18:29:40 UTC
There are good reasons to want to do this and to put those idle skillpoints to good --

1) U have skills u trained because u were a stupid noob and thought you were gonna be a trader only to remember that you hate math.

2) U got an alt that does your trading/salvaging/probing/hauling - etc etc etc and now dont need the skills on your main that you half trained up.

3) U bought a toon that does the specific thing you want but has a couple mil sp of crap that u dont want.

4) U spent all your time training up shield skills only to find out that "real men hull tank" Cool


I think this has potential but with severe restrictions.

First -- There MUST be a LARGE penalty of loss in the transfer (say 40%) so that the only good reason to use it would be to rescue "some" of the wasted skill points.

Second -- There should be a limit to the amount of SP that can be converted - say 2 mil or 10% which ever is greater

Third -- There should be a time limit like 1 year -- really who would need to do this more than once a year???

Fourth -- The removed sp should be ALL of the SP from the selected skills (make it so the skills need to be reinjected) This would prevent people from buying a lvl 5 skilled toon and converting a bunch of the lvl5s to 4s for a boost somewhere else.

Fifth -- The removed skills should not be trainable for 6 months. The reallocation process is similar to putting your head in an active mwd.Twisted

I think this would actually be better as a non-AUR transaction - maybe something like remaps are now.
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