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An auto-refresh interval for d-scan
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SirRebralPalsy
Zorg Incorporated
#1 - 2015-09-20 18:59:43 UTC
A way for d-scan to automatically scan set distance and angle at preset frequency interval.

Basically, you could choose from a list of presets (examples: 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 15 seconds up to 30 seconds let's say) and d-scan will automatically scan system at what ever angle and range you have selected for repeatedly at the chosen frequency.

Why?

To make things a little easier for pilots and reduce the amount of clicking required.

Some people will probably rage that this will promote AFKness but I don't think it will be too much of a problem. After all, even if d-scan auto refreshes for you, you still have to be present to be aware of potentially hostile results on the scan

Thoughts?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-09-20 19:43:19 UTC
No.
Waaaaaaaaay to ease.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-09-20 19:44:36 UTC
Roll

Grrr.
Rob Zahm
Outback Steakhouse of Pancakes
Deepwater Hooligans
#4 - 2015-09-20 19:54:00 UTC
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#5 - 2015-09-20 20:07:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Aramaus
How about the ability to zoom out to solar-system scale and see as far as your ships sensors allow, in real time?

Edit: Oh wait no that would require a massive change/update in the game engine/client. Lets add more T3 ships and special wormholes instead.

The UI update we deserve
Amber Starview
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-09-20 20:11:05 UTC
Would like this on covert recon ships only ....if I'm stealthy it kills the atmosphere clicking like mad 😩
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#7 - 2015-09-20 21:56:42 UTC
Id be somewhat ok with this if the highest frequency was 90 seconds.

If you want more updates than that then be more attentive.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-09-20 22:10:57 UTC
Normally I would agree with anything that makes life easier for me...

HOWEVER, in this case, I feel it's a matter of management.
If you're not willing to ensure your security and/or tactical systems, then you will die and/or fail.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2015-09-20 22:37:33 UTC
I'd rather see D-Scan overhauled to work in a passive/active mode.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Aivlis Eldelbar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-09-21 00:45:59 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
I'd rather see D-Scan overhauled to work in a passive/active mode.


So much this. There is a lot that could be done with dscan to make it better and more complex, like trading arc width for range, having an active/passive mode switch, linking the max Range*Arc=K value to the ship's sensor strengh...

I don't think making dscan auto refresh would be a bad idea if it's combined with further changes, but on it's own... I'd say no.
Azazel The Misanthrope
Oblivion's Pendulum
Top Tier
#11 - 2015-09-21 03:36:04 UTC
Brother 90% of my EVE flight time is a paranoid click spam of the "Scan" button, this would save me thousands of clicks a day. I think a series of cycles would be better though.

For example, you activate the scanner and it scans every 3 second intervals, but after doing this the 3rd time it needs to be reactivated.
Azazel The Misanthrope
Oblivion's Pendulum
Top Tier
#12 - 2015-09-21 03:37:00 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Id be somewhat ok with this if the highest frequency was 90 seconds.

If you want more updates than that then be more attentive.


Do you mean the "lowest" frequency? Otherwise your statement doesn't make much sense.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#13 - 2015-09-21 04:43:18 UTC
Can't we just have the game auto warp us to a safe spot and cloak us like the better botting programs do?

Stop taking baby steps. Let's have the game do everything for us so we can level up while we're at work. Eve would be so much more efficient if I could get up, log in and go to work knowing my eve client will both run the pve content of my choosing and also keep me from losing a ship while afk doing other things.

Serously, the less we have to pay attention and actually play the game the better off we all are.
Iain Cariaba
#14 - 2015-09-21 05:13:28 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Can't we just have the game auto warp us to a safe spot and cloak us like the better botting programs do?

Stop taking baby steps. Let's have the game do everything for us so we can level up while we're at work. Eve would be so much more efficient if I could get up, log in and go to work knowing my eve client will both run the pve content of my choosing and also keep me from losing a ship while afk doing other things.

Serously, the less we have to pay attention and actually play the game the better off we all are.


But, having to actually play the game is obviously bad game design. There is no meaningful choice in d-scanning, everyone should do it, so CCP needs to automate it for me. It's a quality of life improvement and will help newbies a lot.

What?

/troll

Twisted
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-09-21 06:30:22 UTC
SirRebralPalsy wrote:
A way for d-scan to automatically scan set distance and angle at preset frequency interval.

Basically, you could choose from a list of presets (examples: 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 15 seconds up to 30 seconds let's say) and d-scan will automatically scan system at what ever angle and range you have selected for repeatedly at the chosen frequency.

Why?

To make things a little easier for pilots and reduce the amount of clicking required.

Some people will probably rage that this will promote AFKness but I don't think it will be too much of a problem. After all, even if d-scan auto refreshes for you, you still have to be present to be aware of potentially hostile results on the scan

Thoughts?


If it´s to hard for you to klick on the button if you need new information, maybe eve is not the right game for you.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2015-09-21 10:13:17 UTC
Azazel The Misanthrope wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Id be somewhat ok with this if the highest frequency was 90 seconds.

If you want more updates than that then be more attentive.


Do you mean the "lowest" frequency? Otherwise your statement doesn't make much sense.


No.

Highest frequency = shortest intervals

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Klatus Doshu
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#17 - 2015-09-21 12:30:58 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
I'd rather see D-Scan overhauled to work in a passive/active mode.


I like that idea very much and like on an submarine with passive and active sonar, you should be be detectable from a bigger distance on d-scan than when it is on active and as user you get a bigger radius covered...
For example:
On passive you see everything around e.g. 2-4 AU, on active 14 AU....but you are visible in passive mode in 2-4 AU Range on D-scan, in active mode within14 AU.

Perhaps make that passive mode only available on certain ships T3 (linked to subsystem), covert-ops, recons and black-ops....or increase the range of the passive mode on these ships or ease the fitting requirements


Combat probes are not affect, which means you can be detected as usual

Would that be reasonable?
SirRebralPalsy
Zorg Incorporated
#18 - 2015-09-22 05:25:14 UTC
Please be constructive people.

I agree with what someone said earlier, the sheer amount of spamming associated with d-scan clicking kills the immersion of the game at times.

Even though the client would be auto-scanning for you, you still have to be PAYING ATTENTION to d-scan results and therefore are still actively playing the game.

For a game where the lore will have us believe that the ships we pilot are filled with numerous NPCs managing systems it is conceivable to presume that the captain of a vessel would assign tasks, such as this, to be carried out by crew members who would then report back to him/ her their findings

Your overview automatically adjusts for you when selected objects come within its range, will so many of you have us believe that we should actively be using some scanner of sorts to populate our overview tab so as to avoid becoming lifeless bots? Those results make our lives a hell of a lot easier and are provided for us at our leisure.
Aerasia
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-09-22 05:50:12 UTC
SirRebralPalsy wrote:
Basically, you could choose from a list of presets (examples: 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 15 seconds up to 30 seconds let's say) and d-scan will automatically scan system at what ever angle and range you have selected for repeatedly at the chosen frequency.

Honestly, I'd rather just roll that functionality right into the overview, and keep D-Scan for sub-360 degree scan - i.e. actually indicating a direction.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-09-22 07:09:56 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
No.
Waaaaaaaaay to ease.


I'd normally 100% agree. However, living in a wormhole, I do have a respectable level of sympathy for this. However I doubt OP is a WHer, we made our peace with this a long time ago.

But in the interests of completeness I'll add a WH perspective:

It's not engaging, fun or even a meaningful choice in there, it is a complete pain in the hoop. An essential chore.

K-space, well and good. J-space? Let me tell you, you literally click that button every 10 seconds until you log out.


Not that I think anything will change any time soon, but folks should keep in mind not all space is created equal.
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