Intergalactic Summit

Not, of course, that you will undock. Unless undocking to fight pacifists is more PIE's style than an actual war fought against people more than willing to attack back? :)

Pilots from PIE take part in conflicts daily as a part of their militia duties, as you well know.

I am referring to the 5 week war they have 'waged' against us. It has included some particularly humourous elements.

But you are right. I'm just sick and tired of PIE trying to play bully, and trying to show the Disciples that the Grumpkin is not as big and frightening as it is trying to come off as.

PIE will either put its money where its mouth is, and try to enforce its will on an unarmed and pacifist group of monks not operating under Amarrian Law, and draw whatever wrath is coming its way from that, or it will do the smart thing, realize that the Stonites are relatively harmless and that they should never have allowed Ms. Goldcore the authority to claim to be acting on behalf of the 24th IC, or even their own organization.

They have, and now its up to PIE as to whether they wish to accept the terms offered for the tour; That is that there will be a single representative from PIE, along with a representative from Electus Matari, and Teraa Matar, and the tour of the matriculation centers will be conducted in such a way that their locations remain a secret.

Honestly, I think even that is too much, but that's just my opinion.

I do apologise for intervening in a matter that would and should have been between your two corporations. And could have likely been allready handled.

While PIE's concern for the slaves and indeed imperial law should be receiving credit from all, I believe the concern is slightly misplaced. Captain Todako mentioned deteinment center.

So I have one question that comes to mind. Are Disciples Of Ston keeping free Amarrians detained?
And as a follow up, on what grounds?

Captain Crow.

Answers:
Question One: All the slaves we have rescued were illegally sold by their holders to lawless slavers or lawless pilots who sought to illegally transport them out of Amarrian space and sell them into slavery to other buyers. Thus; it is the holders you should be investigating whoever they may be.
Question Two: What is forcible release? I'm not sure what you are talking about. The case of Tobias might apply but you'll have to explain that one.
Question Three: None of the former slaves we have thus far rescued has escaped from their holders. But, the Disciples of Ston will offer sanctuary to any slave who has escaped and appeals for sanctuary so long as they are not guilty of crimes worthy of incarceration or death. If such is the case, they are welcome to be interred in our detention facility if they prefer that to whatever other punishment they might incur elsewhere. The Disciples of Ston oppose the death penalty and will protect even captured slavers from being returned to authorities to be put to death. No slaver we have rescued has requested to return to Amarr for "justice."

I'd just like to point out that I've seen more members of PIE in this thread than I ever have in space. Considering I've been at war with them in some form for more than a year now, that is rather telling.

Would you object to these being confirmed somehow? Perhaps an interview to confirm they are aware of the option and prefer not to apply to it?

So none then? You forget that we aren't subject to most Imperial, Republic, Federal or State law. So long as we don't break CONCORD law in their space, or commit hostile (read, active physical combat based aggression) against an Empire, or finally to be caught with our pants down and contraband in our cargo hold, then quite frankly the laws mean little to nothing.

The problem here Admiral isn't your subordinate's request, it's the way she said and did it. She bullrushed her way into this with intimidation and threats, and the Disciples called her bluff. Ironically if she hadn't threatened around non compliance and had handled the matter with some politeness, chances are this thread wouldn't exist, and communication would be ongoing about arranging a tour.


Thgil screwed up here, I must say I'm surprised you're backing her to the hilt publicly rather than stating you'd handle this matter privately with the dignity I tend to expect from you.

Albeit with certain imposed restrictions, and a media field day for various Anti PIE and Empire outlets.




It depends how you measure success, getting a result that is less than ideal or getting the best result possible. I'm pretty sure had first contact been significantly better handled by Captain Goldcore, all her requests would have been fulfilled and the Disciples wouldn't have stipulations in place for any offered tour.


This goes on what you put above, perhaps you should consider treating other races as your equals, and try asking for things rather than charging in after them. You'll find you get what you want more often with a bit of civility, and spending less time having your teeth kicked in.

No one cares how big your ego is if it fails to get ideal results.