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Is i5 (quad core) and GTX 750 enough to run eve 2K (or atleast FHD)?
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Supikoira
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-09-17 17:11:37 UTC
I am looking for new gaming PC and I don't want to build one so I buy something from Asus etc. There is one in offer, that would have i5-4440 and GTX 750 with 2 GB. Would that be enough to run EVE with 2K resolution (or atleast FHD)?

Reason I want 2K, is that with 23.8" inch screen and 2K resolution the pixel density is only slightly higher than 13.3" screen with 720p. And I use my screen for reading ebooks, documents, matlab, spss, all that work stuff. So FHD would be too low for my work stuff.

What do you think?
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-09-17 17:16:46 UTC
2gb video mem for 2k resolution? the answer is no it will run but not great. Let alone 100 vs 100 battle. For pve mining traveling it will be ok.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2015-09-17 17:21:01 UTC
It'll be fine. 2GB is more than enough to feed 2560×1440, and standard 1080p is a piece of cake. At most, a 750 might require you to dial some of the post-processing down, but not even that is necessarily true.

Comparatively speaking, EVE isn't particularly resource intensive these days — it's only if you start dipping into multi-client setups that you really need to consider what your hardware is capable of.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-09-17 17:32:47 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It'll be fine. 2GB is more than enough to feed 2560×1440, and standard 1080p is a piece of cake. At most, a 750 might require you to dial some of the post-processing down, but not even that is necessarily true.

Comparatively speaking, EVE isn't particularly resource intensive these days — it's only if you start dipping into multi-client setups that you really need to consider what your hardware is capable of.


No its not! he is not asking for 1080p standard he is asking 1440p. And the rest whats he is using its fine. But not for eve many people can not run fine with 1080p if there is a battle more than 10 man on the field. You saying thats good? Have you every use more than 1080p? i guess not.

Personnel i use 4k with 3 screens if 2k or lower i use 6 screens. My vram is 8gb. So i can load all the maxs AA. How bigger the screen how more vram its need to store all the data. Or you want to use your own ram and cpu power. If you only use eve than its no problem (except some lag spikes).

But here i will stop just google is 2gb vram enough for single monitor. This will get your great battles. And allot popcorn time.
Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-09-17 17:37:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov
For the 2k resolution.
Desirably GTX 760 and above.
For comfortable playing 2k under any circumstances GTX 780. CTA 100+ players.
For the FHD will be enough GTX 660 ti.


I do not recommend use of DSR in EVE online. The interface does not support DSR.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2015-09-17 17:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Johan Civire wrote:
No its not! he is not asking for 1080p standard he is asking 1440p.
No, he's asking for 2k.

Depending on if he means “production” 2k (2048×1556) or display 2k (2048×1080), it'll be either marginally above standard 1080p or somewhere right in-between 1080p and 2560×1440 in terms of how many pixels need to be pushed through the pipeline. Either way, 2GB is more than enough to handle it.

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But not for eve many people can not run fine with 1080p if there is a battle more than 10 man on the field. You saying thats good?
I'm saying they should clean out the crud in their cooling so their computers don't step down to keep from overheating, alternatively not buy some “nVideo”-branded knock-off card.

I play at 2560×1440 or, when I want to be fancy, 5120×1440. This is done on a 2GB 760. Hell, I play at 2560×1440 on a half-gig Radeon HD 4800 series using the OSX client. It works just fine. The OP will be fine. Suggesting otherwise is nothing but sheer incompetence.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-09-17 17:42:55 UTC
Vollhov wrote:
For the 2k resolution.
Desirably GTX 760 and above.
For comfortable playing 2k under any circumstances GTX 780. CTA 100+ players.
For the FHD will be enough GTX 660 ti.


I do not recommend use of DSR in EVE online. The interface does not support DSR.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology


http://www.naveronasis.com/eve/4k/evemass/ExeFile%202014-12-24%2019-49-05-63.png

Its fine the interface works np Here a screenshot.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-09-17 17:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Tippia wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
No its not! he is not asking for 1080p standard he is asking 1440p.
No, he's asking for 2k.

Depending on if he means “production” 2k (2048×1556) or display 2k (2048×1080), it'll be either marginally above standard 1080p or somewhere right in-between 1080p and 2560×1440 in terms of pixel count. Either way, 2GB is more than enough to handle it.

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But not for eve many people can not run fine with 1080p if there is a battle more than 10 man on the field. You saying thats good?
I'm saying they should clean out the crud in their cooling so their computers don't step down to keep from overheating, alternatively not buy some “nVideo”-branded knock-off card.

I play at 2560×1440 or, when I want to be fancy, 5120×1440. This is done on a 2GB 760. Hell, I play at 2560×1440 on a half-gig Radeo HD 4800 series using the OSX client. It works just fine. The OP will be fine. Suggesting otherwise is nothing but sheer incompetence.


I was forgetting the overheat problem on nvidia. I use the 2x amd 295x2 and thats semi water cooled card.

Ok its his choice. Personnel i go for 3gb just to be sure. 2gb with all max out resolution seems for me just to low.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2015-09-17 17:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Johan Civire wrote:
I was forgetting the overheat problem on nvidia.
I was being glib, and I wasn't even talking about the graphics card. Roll

Quote:
Ok its his choice. Personnel i go for 3gb just to be sure. 2gb with all max out resolution seems for me just to low.

Again: since it works just fine with 512MB, 2GB is more than enough.

You are massively overestimating how much memory a small resolution increase costs.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-09-17 22:38:52 UTC
I use a Nvidia GTX 750 ti, and I run everything on maximum settings at 55 fps
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-09-17 23:03:21 UTC
670 running 4 clients is works fine.
But i have not been into the big 100 ppl fights yet.
But i expect it to do well.

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BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-09-17 23:16:33 UTC
8088 XT with EGA and 2 floppy drives, DOS 4.01. and... 300 baud modem...now THAT's the way to play...as long as you're playing Centipede...
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#13 - 2015-09-18 04:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
GTX 660, runs everything turned -- including HDR and post proc -- on/at max except Asteroid Environments or what ever it's called at 90-110 fps. During missions with a lot of fire going on, it'll drop down to 70-80 at worst. Can't say what the 100v100 man scenario that was mentioned would look like, but that's everything at 3840x1080 (stretched across two displays at 1920x1080 each).

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2015-09-18 14:34:42 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It'll be fine. 2GB is more than enough to feed 2560×1440, and standard 1080p is a piece of cake. At most, a 750 might require you to dial some of the post-processing down, but not even that is necessarily true.

Comparatively speaking, EVE isn't particularly resource intensive these days — it's only if you start dipping into multi-client setups that you really need to consider what your hardware is capable of.


No its not! he is not asking for 1080p standard he is asking 1440p. And the rest whats he is using its fine. But not for eve many people can not run fine with 1080p if there is a battle more than 10 man on the field. You saying thats good? Have you every use more than 1080p? i guess not.

Personnel i use 4k with 3 screens if 2k or lower i use 6 screens. My vram is 8gb. So i can load all the maxs AA. How bigger the screen how more vram its need to store all the data. Or you want to use your own ram and cpu power. If you only use eve than its no problem (except some lag spikes).

But here i will stop just google is 2gb vram enough for single monitor. This will get your great battles. And allot popcorn time.


So you run 3 clients maxed out at 4K on 8GB vram which is 24.9 million pixels. But suddenly running a single 1440p (3.7m pixels) client is impossible on 2GB? Did you even check to do some basic math?

Anyways a 750 will run a single client fine at QHD, though you might have to turn down post processing and AA to get a rock solid framerate. I would try to get a 750ti/960 or a R9 280/380 if you plan on using multiple accounts regularly
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#15 - 2015-09-18 20:51:41 UTC
Destoya wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It'll be fine. 2GB is more than enough to feed 2560×1440, and standard 1080p is a piece of cake. At most, a 750 might require you to dial some of the post-processing down, but not even that is necessarily true.

Comparatively speaking, EVE isn't particularly resource intensive these days — it's only if you start dipping into multi-client setups that you really need to consider what your hardware is capable of.


No its not! he is not asking for 1080p standard he is asking 1440p. And the rest whats he is using its fine. But not for eve many people can not run fine with 1080p if there is a battle more than 10 man on the field. You saying thats good? Have you every use more than 1080p? i guess not.

Personnel i use 4k with 3 screens if 2k or lower i use 6 screens. My vram is 8gb. So i can load all the maxs AA. How bigger the screen how more vram its need to store all the data. Or you want to use your own ram and cpu power. If you only use eve than its no problem (except some lag spikes).

But here i will stop just google is 2gb vram enough for single monitor. This will get your great battles. And allot popcorn time.


So you run 3 clients maxed out at 4K on 8GB vram which is 24.9 million pixels. But suddenly running a single 1440p (3.7m pixels) client is impossible on 2GB? Did you even check to do some basic math?

Anyways a 750 will run a single client fine at QHD, though you might have to turn down post processing and AA to get a rock solid framerate. I would try to get a 750ti/960 or a R9 280/380 if you plan on using multiple accounts regularly



dont know about the r9 280 etc but the 390x is beautiful, damn big card though, had to adjust my internal layour for it to fit -.- will take me a long time to redo my cable management due to my laziness
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#16 - 2015-09-19 03:30:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
I run 6 maxed out (bar AA) clients on my single r9 290. 2 windowed full screen and 4 half screen split vertically. All run solid 60fps. Tbh would probably run solid 120 fps if i set the refresh to the monitors native, just dont see the need for 120 fps in eve.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#17 - 2015-09-19 04:40:57 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
I run 6 maxed out (bar AA) clients on my single r9 290. 2 windowed full screen and 4 half screen split vertically. All run solid 60fps. Tbh would probably run solid 120 fps if i set the refresh to the monitors native, just dont see the need for 120 fps in eve.


Agreed, though when you have a dip or momentary stutter, it's usually less pronounced if noticeable at all. Only difference I can see really. I'd love to get my hands on a descent SSD since that'd make a much better impact in performance anyways.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-09-19 09:37:31 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
I was forgetting the overheat problem on nvidia.


Your incompetence is showing.
Leeluvv
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-09-19 11:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Leeluvv
A 2560 x 1440 monitor has 3.7 million Pixels.
At 32 bit colour, it uses 118 Million bits of memory.
This equates to 14 MBytes of memory.

i.e You only need a 14MB card to display 2560 x 1440 at 32 bit colour.

The large amounts of RAM modern graphics cards have is for processing and handling the textures, etc, but Eve does not require much memory (graphics or CPU) to run. If you think otherwise, use Task Manager and see how much RAM Eve is actually using, mine is currently using 700MB. Second hint, the installed game is only 300MB and texture compression won't be huge.

Using GPU-Z on my PC (i5 4670K, 16GB RAM and a 3GB R9 280X), Windows is using 600MB of Video memory and each Eve client running at 1920 x 1200 and full details uses an additional 400MB.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#20 - 2015-09-19 15:28:11 UTC
I would like to point out that I run 5 monitors at 1920X1080 on 2.. Thats right folks two 9800 GT's with 1 Gig of vram. I have 16 gigs of ram and an 8 Core AMD. The only thing not running on stock cooling is the CPU because I had an old H100 laying around. Granted I dont use this as my main machine anymore because I built a new one last year. But I use it as a secondary for ratting and mining while pvping on my main.

So far on that machine I have-

*Run 28 Clients in windowed mode on all low settings while mining.
* I have ratted in like 9 Ishtars at one time for literal hours.. ( I cannot kill these dam Gpus.. One got so hot I could smell the fan melting..
* I have actively WH jewed with like 9 accounts some in caps triage etc. ( Also using armor Raipers for webs which are pretty squishy.

So yeah your simply wrong..

Eve is a monster but simply adjust your setting and lower things as needed. But you can get plenty of high quality game play with enough tweaking.
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