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Solo Guardian vs Exequror

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#21 - 2015-09-17 19:23:37 UTC
Super Miguel wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Ships and Modules is thataway, Fantastico Arrow




Roll


sorry ill create it there



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Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#22 - 2015-09-17 20:16:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Miguel
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Super Miguel wrote:
honestly it was just a question to know what would be better, we wont run this way for PvP or anything.... just let says for example to go blow a POS or something would be nice to have a logi imo

Then Guardian is better than Exequror.

The higher resists will be better if you are targeted by defensive guns, since there'll be no one to rep you. Fitting an ancillary rep in the lows will help your own survivability.

An AT Guardian fit will be useful in that situation. We didn't need to run a Guardian this year so I can't post s loss mail of my own, but as per the earlier suggestion, go look at losses in PE1-R1 for Guardians and once you are trained into an Oneiros, use that instead.

Here is one good example:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/48778395/

This year's meta was dominated by the use of rep bots to support logi, so no need for local reps and the reactive hardener was good enough with the buffer tank. Last year's fits are also with looking at.

As soon as a bash turns into a pvp situation though, your f'd unless it's an opponent your fleet could beat without logi anyway.


Thanks you much...

So something like this:

[Guardian, Guardian import 1]
1600mm Steel Plates II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium 'Gattotte' Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800

Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2015-09-17 21:36:45 UTC
Whike bumblefck is correct in that this thread is in the wrong place and that duplicating it in the correct place compounds the forum errors, I have to say this is the best new thread I have read in GD in the last two weeks.

Big ups for all the constructive criticism and alternative suggestions. Welcome to the Eve Online community OP.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#24 - 2015-09-18 03:21:51 UTC
Super Miguel wrote:
lets assume that it is just me, im better off running a guardian or a exequror? Im logi V and if Guardian what fit?


You are better off using the Exequrororerur if you are the sole Logibro, UNLESS you can convince at least one of your Battleships to fit a Remote Cap module to cap buddy with you. Even then, the Exequrororerur is probably a better bet as the BS will have horrid range on their cap transfer module.

And...

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Make the fail armor Raven fly a logi instead, then you have 2 Guardians with a proper cap chain.

This. So much this.

Get that Raven into an Augrororororor and have a cap buddy.

Or just say 'screw logi' and go with a spider tank setup.

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Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#25 - 2015-09-18 03:36:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Miguel
Ya i think im having someone flight at least an augoror
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#26 - 2015-09-18 09:04:15 UTC
I have a guardian pilot doing nothing in highsec if you wanna hand me the ship to use.
Logi V bla bla snuggles.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#27 - 2015-09-18 09:40:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
logi will be wiped off the grid in a matter of seconds then your fleet dies, good luck. dropping a solo dread without proper support is just asking for trouble

drop triage if your dropping dreads :/

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Commander Spurty
#28 - 2015-09-18 11:00:06 UTC
Suddenly 10s of locator agents sprung into action...

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#29 - 2015-09-18 12:10:15 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Super Miguel wrote:
lets assume that it is just me, im better off running a guardian or a exequror? Im logi V and if Guardian what fit?


You are better off using the Exequrororerur if you are the sole Logibro, UNLESS you can convince at least one of your Battleships to fit a Remote Cap module to cap buddy with you. Even then, the Exequrororerur is probably a better bet as the BS will have horrid range on their cap transfer module.

And...

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Make the fail armor Raven fly a logi instead, then you have 2 Guardians with a proper cap chain.

This. So much this.

Get that Raven into an Augrororororor and have a cap buddy.

Or just say 'screw logi' and go with a spider tank setup.


In terms of the Augoror...

[Augoror, Gimp 1]
Reactive Armor Hardener
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Steel Plates II
Damage Control II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Phased Muon ECCM Caster I

Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I

There you go, then you can have a properly fit Guardian with it instead, by the way the ECCM Caster I could be changed to an ECCM to use on the ship itself.

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-09-18 12:42:22 UTC
Commander Spurty wrote:
Suddenly 10s of locator agents sprung into action...


My thought also. Battleships and a solo dread with one logi? That is a recipe for a proper dunking. I hope you posted with an alt because half the people in this thread have already checked your killboard and run a locate to see where you operate.


Catch? Limited killboard activity; probably an alt. Regardless, solo dread in nullsec seems like a bad idea.
Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#31 - 2015-09-18 13:14:10 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:


Big ups for all the constructive criticism and alternative suggestions. Welcome to the Eve Online community OP.


You had to talk :P
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