These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE New Citizens Q&A

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

How do I not get ripped off in the market?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Horus Hemah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-09-17 03:10:09 UTC
I just bought myself a new destroyer, a coercer, since I stepped away from my computer for a minute and my old one got destroyed. I warped a couple of systems to what looked like a decent deal, ~1.1 M Isk, and bought it and started buying hardware to fit it. I clicked the fitting icon to remind myself how many turrets it had and it was a @#$%#@% Impairor. How the hell did somebody do that and how the hell can I avoid it in the future. I went back and looked at the market and it was still there at that price. I clicked info, show details, etc... and it says it is a coercer. There is no indication it is a bait and switch. What the hell.

How the hell can I buy a new ship if it is this easy to get ripped off?
Horus Hemah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-09-17 03:14:42 UTC
Never mind. I am a moron. The game gave me an imparior and I didn't even notice.



Carry on...
Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-09-17 07:52:20 UTC
Mess up, realising your mistake, owning up to it and learning from it is probably the best mind set to have in EVE. With that I'll drop some tips any way.

- each faction has a main trade hub (Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, Rens). If you want to buy stuff then that's a good place to be as you might not always get the best prices but you probably won't be ripped off either due to the high number of traders. On top of that you'll be able to buy everything you need from one single station, making it a lot easier and less time consuming

- if you change the settings in the market window you can set it to show region wide trades and prices so if you're looking for something you can sort by price to see if it makes sense, for that region anyway. If you combine that with the above that means that being in the region the trade hub is at means that you can figure out what realistic prices are

- it helps to use something like EVE-Central, there you can check prices on goods throughout the universe. Only use it as an indication because the data will probably be outdated and might be manipulated. Still, it's very useful.
voetius
Grundrisse
#4 - 2015-09-17 08:21:17 UTC

Probably the most useful thing to know about the market for those who are new-ish to Eve is to make sure you have it sorted the right way.

The market works on a bid and ask system. You will always sell to the highest buy order or buy the cheapest item that is listed* on sell orders although you can pay more if you are not aware of this.

You should always have the sell price sorted with lowest at the top, just click on the price header once or twice to make sure.

*the exception is where there is a minimum volume associated with a buy order. In this case you must have at least the minimum quantity to sell goods to that buy order. Minimum quantities aren't used much by traders except for a couple of high volume goods like minerals, etc.

The only time it I would change this sortation is if you e.g. want to buy a shuttle for travel and just want to find the nearest that is reasonably priced, then change to jumps with lowest at the top, but remember to change it back to lowest price at the top afterwards.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-09-17 16:10:12 UTC
Horus Hemah wrote:
Never mind. I am a moron. The game gave me an imparior and I didn't even notice.

You'll get a free rookie ship any time you dock your pod in a station where you have no ships (or if you are podded and return to a station where you have no ships). And don't worry about the mistake. Just takes a couple days to get used to all the UI. On my first day I tried to go mining without equipping any mining lasers...

Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli

Titan's Lament
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#6 - 2015-09-17 16:29:33 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Horus Hemah wrote:
Never mind. I am a moron. The game gave me an imparior and I didn't even notice.

You'll get a free rookie ship any time you dock your pod in a station where you have no ships (or if you are podded and return to a station where you have no ships). And don't worry about the mistake. Just takes a couple days to get used to all the UI. On my first day I tried to go mining without equipping any mining lasers...
I tried to do it in a pod on my first trial Shocked

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2015-09-17 18:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Been playing EVE over 6 years now.

Still a newb making newb mistakes, and still learning from them.
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2015-09-17 19:15:24 UTC
The market has some scams, but not as many as the contracts system. It is possible to pull the type of mis-named scam that you thought you had, in contracts.

Here is a list of the common scams and how to avoid them.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#9 - 2015-09-18 01:46:38 UTC
Horus Hemah wrote:
Never mind. I am a moron. The game gave me an imparior and I didn't even notice.



Carry on...

Spotting your mistakes and owning them. You already have the one key requirement for being a great pilot.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#10 - 2015-09-18 06:10:24 UTC
Occasional market scammer here.

I wouldn't bother intentionally scamming you for the value of a Coercer.

If I wanted to scam someone looking to buy a Coercer, what I'd do is pick a station someone might desire a Coercer in (possibly a station in Jita that isn't the hub) and post a Coercer for sale on a 90 day sell order at 800 million ISK. Someone can misread that as 800000 and get suckered in.

The way to avoid many (not all) scams is to look at the warning asking "You are buying this item at 9900% over market price, are you sure?"

That warning is like a smoke detector. Most of the time when it goes off it is a false alarm (I set mine off every third time I cook a steak). But you always want it on, because while it's a nuisance on false alarms, it is a lifesaver when you really need it. When that warning appears, pay attention to it, take a breath, and think "Am I actually sure?"

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com