EVE General Discussion

Cool, if this is your attitude then you must accept failing numbers without crying about it. Open your eyes brother, can't you see the plex users crying on the forum?

A petition thread is simply signed or not signed. Not signing means you disapprove and that you don't need to comment. Keep your short sighted opinions to yourself !

But if it is really the in game PLEX users that you are concerned for, then that has nothing to do with the RL cost of PLEX.

To subscribe an account for a hobby is normal discretionary spending we take into account when working out our finances. To purchase PLEX on top of that to sell for ISK in game is not something CCP needs to subsidise.

People who can afford that don't need to worry about a couple of dollars in savings.

So what you really are concerned about is the in game price of PLEX and believe that the shortage of supply is because of RL economic reasons. That doesn't make much sense.

If you want to reduce the in game price that's one thing. But suggesting that the out of game price should be lowered to make discretionary spending easier is just asking for straight charity from CCP for the players that can already afford it anyway.

My opinions promote customer satisfaction and loyalty, if all the parties involved in PLEX reach a consensus we will see numbers stabilize and good prospects for the Eve economy.

Some of the plex users are miners who pay for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th accounts, if all of them were to suddenly stop using most of their accounts then the supply of minerals will be effected resulting in higher mineral prices. Industry will be affected and the price of everything will rise.

This game seems to be catering for the capitalists among us, if it continues this way then CCP will lose more of their income as more people leave.

So... they would be making more ISK for their labor? OH THE HORROR!!!
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It's almost as if the OP is inadvertently attempting to turn this thread into a CODE. recruitment drive. Less miners = win profits etc. Might even make manufacturing viable again. Oh heck, doing the opposite of what the OP suggests might even bring a flood of new players into this game.

Again, what about the people who can't afford a couple dollars in savings? What's the answer? Is is **** you, you're poor?

The in game price of a PLEX is affected by the RL cost of it. If plex were £9.99 then perhaps the in game cost of a plex could be 700m, all parties benefit in this example.

Who's being milked when they buy PLEX for cash and how is dropping the price by a couple of dollars suddenly going to open up a new market of players?

The same people who an afford it now will be able to afford it then and people who now can't afford to purchase PLEX with cash aren't going to be able to afford it just because it's $2-3 cheaper. That's not much of a saving if discretionary spending is that tight for someone.

It seems Aaron's real concern is that in game demand for PLEX is higher than current market supply which is causing inflation.

He wants to see in game supply increased to match or exceed demand and drive prices in game down again so that those who PLEX their account are able to do so for less in game effort expended.

If it's more supply that is needed, it would seem lowering the price of a single PLEX wouldn't be that significant. Better to give a bigger discount for purchasing the multiple PLEX packs so that when someone purchases PLEX the discount encourages them to purchase more than they otherwise would. That will create more supply to market as people sell the extra PLEX they buy compulsively because it looks like a good deal.

But lowering the price of PLEX by a couple of dollars won't necessarily create increased buying.

O man the popcorn taste good here. Damn love this nonsense OP. Best one in a while.

It was a semi-deliberate reference to see if anyone took the bait.

As I torrent all my music, I don't actually know how much it costs to download an album, hence me not using that as an example.

No, my answer them is the same as the question I asked in my first reply in this thread.

If you are worried about people not being able to afford PLEX, why not recommend those people subscribe?

That will be even cheaper for them than this petition.

However, if someone is subscribed and they want to buy PLEX for cash on top of that to sell for ISK in game so that someone else can play based on PLEXing their account (that seems to be what you are concerned for), then the group that purchase PLEX for cash clearly have the discretionary budget to do so. A couple of dollars in savings isn't going to suddenly change the number of people that can afford extra again on top.

How old are you? If a RL recession hits then everything you mention is put on the back burner. We stop going out to eat, we stop drinking alcohol, we generally stop doing and buying nice things. Lots of jobs will get lost in retail and leisure businesses due to the sales dropping.

Reducing the plex price will ensure those of us that have to watch our pennies can still play.