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Any cheap solo ship idea

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Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-09-16 05:11:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Triakis Cadelanne
Hello,

Does anybody have something cheap and efficient to fly solo ? Everything I've been fitting recently mostly die. Also any good advice for solo in general is welcome.
NovaCat13
Ember Interstellar Inc.
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#2 - 2015-09-16 05:39:02 UTC
Gonna need to give out more info than that. Solo dreads? Solo T2 Ewar frigates? In Wormholes? HS ganking?

Otherwise all I can really suggest is have fun in T1 frigates. Or check out the Chessur, Eve is Easy, and Mr Hyde Youtube channels. Great place to learn solo and small gang stuff before undocking.

Just say NO to Dailies

Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-09-16 06:01:52 UTC
NovaCat13 wrote:
Gonna need to give out more info than that. Solo dreads? Solo T2 Ewar frigates? In Wormholes? HS ganking?

Otherwise all I can really suggest is have fun in T1 frigates. Or check out the Chessur, Eve is Easy, and Mr Hyde Youtube channels. Great place to learn solo and small gang stuff before undocking.


Cheap stuff for low sec / null sec. Mostly cruisers because I'm done with frigates atm. Also cheap for me means less than 50M.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#4 - 2015-09-16 06:36:40 UTC
For Frigates, Comets and Daredevils can pack a hell of a wallop. Slicers are also very nice when flown well. Sentinels can decimate many, many opponents, but it can sometimes be hard to find a fight without getting blobbed.

For Cruisers, perhaps look at the Thorax or Stabber. If you're feeling a little flush, the Vigilant is pretty sweet.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#5 - 2015-09-16 07:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
I do not have cruiser PvP experience myself, but it seems to me, that faction versions of eve ships are much better suited to PvP, than to PvE. So maybe you can get Stabber fleet issue (still cheap hull) and try it out.

But correct answer would be to leave your tiny corp and join some real Provy crew. You seem to fly in Providence and there are some very active PvP corporations.

Surely brave newbies can also give you perfect answers - they currently focus on cruiser doctrine.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#6 - 2015-09-16 08:09:43 UTC
Any T1 cruiser T2 fitted will cost you less then 50 mil ... proably around 35 .. so again gotta go with the rest , we need more info on what you need .

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Titus Heldane
The Vomit Comets
#7 - 2015-09-16 12:22:26 UTC
if you want cheap stuff, dont bother with any faction bullshit. t1 is what you want. learn it. love it. breathe it. the best, most efficient solo pvp ship in the entire game is the tristan. its the best and most versatile t1 frig ever.

but if you dont want frigs, you can just take it up a notch and get an algos. see where im headed? if you want a cheap do-it-all t1 cruiser that will melt face in any situation and always come out on top, you want a vexor. you can hulltank it. you can armor tank it. you can shield tank it. you can active tank it. you can kite, you can brawl, you can neut. depending on how you fit it you can do whatever you want with it and have a lot of fun and get a ton of kills.

depending on your playstyle and preferences i can give you some fits if you want.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#8 - 2015-09-16 13:46:30 UTC
crucifier is fun, can wreck other turret based, more expensive ships - can be a nasty surprise for the enemy :)

little tank in form of dual SAR (or SAR+SAAR), point, prop mod, dual-RTD.. guns/drones -> fun.
you should avoid missile ships or webs tho
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#9 - 2015-09-16 14:01:14 UTC
Off the top of my head....Thorax, Caracal, Rupture, and Arbitrator.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-09-16 14:14:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
Well getting out there and losing ships as you have been doing is actually the best way to learn. It doesnt take long for your KB to go from neg one month, to about even the next, and positive soon after.

But your KB also confirms that nul can be a challenge to find solo fights. The open space nature of it, and the intel channel culture can be frustrating for solo.

FW low sec on the other hand is an 'all you can eat' solo buffet! Black Rise being the solo mecca of New Eden.

T3D's are the current meta. But you'll still find the most fights in an unscary T1 Frig.

The Rail Cursus you fly would attract lots of Novice plex runners to stay and pew, as most will assume you are the aweful dual rep fit and that you dont have range control. And your TD Slasher fit is one of the most underrated solo fits in the game. Bait a Small plex in that, and you will kill most turret Desi's and T3'd who fall for your devious trap, simply by orbitting at 500 with a Tracking Script loaded.

Killing faction fit 'ISK Tanked' bling ships in a <10mil T1 Frig is a sweet feeling :)

And good Dscan discipline will let you split up gangs and kill them one at a time.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Titus Heldane
The Vomit Comets
#11 - 2015-09-16 15:41:29 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
Black Rise being the solo mecca of New Eden.



LOL
Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-09-17 02:35:20 UTC
Vexor is pretty fun. Stabber is also pretty versatile and can pull off some fun kills. Thorax is great for latching on to something and melting it ( though you will probably die to your targets friends ).

After insurance, battle cruisers are pretty inexpensive. The HAM drake is good for some cheap thrills.
I would even suggest a procurer and watch people trip over themselves to tackle you.

Any t1 ship with t2 fit can solo and get kills. You just have to be a little creative sometimes.
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-09-17 09:16:07 UTC
If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.

Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely

Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.

With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.

Yes this meta sucks balls.
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-09-17 11:04:33 UTC
Doctor Knuckles wrote:
If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.

Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely

Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.

With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.

Yes this meta sucks balls.


Welcome to Svipul online I'd say :)

Had some thrill in a dual rep Thorax, allmost killed an Harbinger in front of his friends, burnt my guns like a ****** tough.
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-09-17 19:43:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Triakis Cadelanne
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49090888/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49083951/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49106354/

Not very good yet :/

EDIT : Yeah I know more people said Vexor than Thorax but I'm not feeling I'll have fun piloting Vexor yet.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#16 - 2015-09-18 02:39:07 UTC
Doctor Knuckles wrote:
If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.

Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely

Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.

With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.

Yes this meta sucks balls.


Dual Web electron blaster Moa with XLASB does pretty well. Unless they are implanted AND linked, you can hit the popular 10MN Svipul/Confessor fits well with 500dps. Solid tank as well. It's very susceptible to cap warfare though.
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-09-18 09:25:00 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Doctor Knuckles wrote:
If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.

Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely

Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.

With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.

Yes this meta sucks balls.


Dual Web electron blaster Moa with XLASB does pretty well. Unless they are implanted AND linked, you can hit the popular 10MN Svipul/Confessor fits well with 500dps. Solid tank as well. It's very susceptible to cap warfare though.


They don't need implants and links to tank 500 kin-therm dpst (if they rolling with a C-type), one of the 2 is enough to tank it comfortably :\
Triakis Cadelanne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-09-18 11:41:13 UTC
Actually I didn't have any real issue with T3D yet.

My main issue is to cross the path of 5+ man gangs, faction cruisers like OPrthrus or Gila, popular SFI etc. that are often teamed together when they could often wreck me 1v1 ^^
Tomski Ruslav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-09-19 00:18:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomski Ruslav
Comet, Hokbill, Vexors, Stabber, Arbitrator, Caracal, Harpy, Ishkur and probably quite a few others i cant remember right now.

Oh, and Nomens and SFI's (both the Stabber fleet issue, and the Scythe fleet issue), and of course the sentinel.

One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Titus Heldane
The Vomit Comets
#20 - 2015-09-19 08:05:02 UTC
Triakis Cadelanne wrote:
Actually I didn't have any real issue with T3D yet.

My main issue is to cross the path of 5+ man gangs, faction cruisers like OPrthrus or Gila, popular SFI etc. that are often teamed together when they could often wreck me 1v1 ^^



i think your issue is that you dont use dscan properly and pick the wrong fights. the first thing you do before you engage someone is check local to see if he has any friends. you can even check his kb to see if hes a blobber or flies solo. in FW space, keep your dscan on short range and see if there is anyone outside the plex. if more people start coming in, try to get out. its also a lot harder to find solo fights in a cruiser than in a frig or destroyer.
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