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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#21 - 2015-09-15 05:51:03 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
There is no difference. I am saying I am busy doing my thing and doing the modeling that I do not have as much time to make 1.6 Bil. but I hope I can bring you guys and myself some nice Eve videos next summer and I will learn a lot by doing it.

Well the difference is then you have two hobbies, and you may need to pick one between the two if you don't have time for both. Or you have it backwards where you make EVE into work and the editor into a hobby which doesn't seem to work as the hobby will always win. And yes I know the learning curve of 3D modeling, thousands of hours of repetitive practice to even show intermediate work quality. That is your own set priority, putting other things and even learning your editor over EVE, and something only you can sort out if you don't want to manage a balance. Getting good at modeling takes years, and can be a burnout just as much as playing a game if overdone obsessively.

CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed.



So true. I think I was getting a little bored doing the same things over and over in Eve. Like I said I do not play games, but I am having a great time trying to create Eve.

Like you said, it takes years to learn, but I'm an Eve player. We are all about learning curves Lol
Zihao
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-09-15 05:54:13 UTC
Sounds like you have a lot more time to 'not play games,' ahead of you.

Godspeed, friend.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-09-15 05:57:08 UTC
Webvan wrote:
[quote=Destiny Dain2]

CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed.



When you say farming, do you mean people using bots to auto-print isk or people just PVEing with multiboxing chars?
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#24 - 2015-09-15 06:01:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Daniela Doran wrote:
Webvan wrote:
[quote=Destiny Dain2]

CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed.



When you say farming, do you mean people using bots to auto-print isk or people just PVEing with multiboxing chars?


Sorry not me. I replied.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#25 - 2015-09-15 06:01:54 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
how many times must people keep posting this topic?


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...42.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-09-15 06:03:16 UTC
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert?


Pretty sure its a covert Citadel Project advert. ISD please lock.

"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave."  | zoonr-Korsairs |

Meanwhile Citadel release issues: "tried to bug report this and the bug report is bugged as well" | Rafeau |

Dravyan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-09-15 06:06:41 UTC
It always felt a little dirty using PLEX to me. Why play a game if you can just use real life money to achieve things in it? I'd rather just pay the subscription and feel like I accomplished something...
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#28 - 2015-09-15 06:07:14 UTC
helana Tsero wrote:
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert?


Pretty sure its a covert Citadel Project advert. ISD please lock.



No. It is a complaint. but I will throw in my advert on "The Citadel Project"Lol

Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#29 - 2015-09-15 06:09:43 UTC
Dravyan wrote:
It always felt a little dirty using PLEX to me. Why play a game if you can just use real life money to achieve things in it? I'd rather just pay the subscription and feel like I accomplished something...


The challenge was what got me into the game. Never mind the learning curve, but throw in 800 Mill in 20 days as well, it made the game twice as fun.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#30 - 2015-09-15 06:14:07 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


So you have contributed nothing to CCP's bottom line and you expect them to make it easier for you to continue doing so?

You're kidding, right?

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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#31 - 2015-09-15 06:15:56 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


So you have contributed nothing to CCP's bottom line and you expect them to make it easier for you to continue doing so?

You're kidding, right?


No, not at all.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#32 - 2015-09-15 06:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Daniela Doran wrote:
When you say farming, do you mean people using bots to auto-print isk or people just PVEing with multiboxing chars?
I just really like red potatoes is all.

Nope, just farming. Botting is botting. It doesn't even need to be pve I guess, you could technically farm other players haha, but yeah in pve it mostly means. It just means gathering large amounts of game currency or certain items, sort of in an easy or repetitive task to gain big amounts of whatever, usually a single type of item or such. A term used since UO and most every other mmo I've played. And not making a connection to gold farming, which too is farming but usually done illegally for RMT. Just legal farming, that was all I meant. Even mining could be considered farming, especially if the ore is being sold.

So like an extreme example: I use to pelt farm in EQ1 (good use for ranger). I'd hunt certain animals for no other reason than to gather their pelts/furs, to use and/or to sell, usually very rare pelts. No money or xp on them, not even a challenge other than tracking them, just drop them over and over and over as quick as they would spawn until I had the stacks I wanted.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#33 - 2015-09-15 06:40:50 UTC
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, little low
Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me

Mama, just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled my trigger, now he's dead
Mama, life had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
Mama, ooo
Didn't mean to make you cry
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, but nothing really matters

Too late, my time has come
Sends shivers down my spine
Body's aching all the time
Goodbye everybody I've got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth
Mama, ooo (anyway the wind blows)
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

I see a little silhouetto of a man
Scaramouch, scaramouch will you do the fandango
Thunderbolt and lightning very very frightening me
Gallileo, Gallileo,
Gallileo, Gallileo,
Gallileo Figaro - magnifico

But I'm just a poor boy and nobody loves me
He's just a poor boy from a poor family
Spare him his life from this monstrosity
Easy come easy go will you let me go
Bismillah! No we will not let you go - let him go
Bismillah! We will not let you go - let him go
Bismillah! We will not let you go let me go
Will not let you go let me go (never)
Never let you go let me go
Never let me go ooo
No, no, no, no, no, no, no
Oh mama mia, mama mia, mama mia let me go
Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me
For me
For me

So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye
So you think you can love me and leave me to die
Oh baby can't do this to me baby
Just gotta get out just gotta get right outta here

Ooh yeah, ooh yeah
Nothing really matters
Anyone can see
Nothing really matters nothing really matters to me

Anyway the wind blows

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#34 - 2015-09-15 06:42:34 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.

So you don't play games, you just waste your free time grinding ISK to not play the game? For what? So you have another month where you can grind for a PLEX so you can continue to not play the game?

I too have a busy life and a job, and I would never waste my precious free time grinding virtual money in a game to save the laughable amount of money for a subscription (if you have a job).

Also EVE is not free2play, and you are not entitled to a PLEX. They don't get seeded by CCP in the market but by other players. If you have a problem with the price then complain to them, they actually pay your sub.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#35 - 2015-09-15 06:51:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.

So you don't play games, you just waste your free time grinding ISK to not play the game? For what? So you have another month where you can grind for a PLEX so you can continue to not play the game?

I too have a busy life and a job, and I would never waste my precious free time grinding virtual money in a game to save the laughable amount of money for a subscription (if you have a job).

Also EVE is not free2play, and you are not entitled to a PLEX. They don't get seeded by CCP in the market but by other players. If you have a problem with the price then complain to them, they actually pay your sub.



I am getting one more PLEX tomorrow, but I am not sure about the following months. I heard the Citadel is coming out December so I might stay in without taking a break.

As soon as somebody complains, someone is always "Captain Obvious" by saying this. I'm Sorry, but I know and I'm one of the ones that put in the work and buying multiple PLEX's. But 1.46 Bil.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#36 - 2015-09-15 07:00:17 UTC
Sorry, just logged in 1.217 Billion isk
Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-09-15 07:19:31 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
As soon as somebody complains, someone is always "Captain Obvious" by saying this. I'm Sorry, but I know and I'm one of the ones that put in the work and buying multiple PLEX's. But 1.46 Bil.


Sorry Captain Obvious is currently unavailable. I'll be his replacement for the time beeing.

So heres my friendly advice: PLEX price is to high? Do something about it and buy a PLEX from the store and sell it on the market to bring down PLEX price.

This thread is so full of inconsistency. You dont like video games but you played with 5 accounts and have a blog about this game?

Cmon pls lock this thread already.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#38 - 2015-09-15 07:24:16 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Sorry, just logged in 1.217 Billion isk

hah you should have been in jita where they sell for 1.18b, but where someone just sold one for 12.163.00 ISK Lol
Don't drink and sell.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#39 - 2015-09-15 07:37:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Sorry, just logged in 1.217 Billion isk

hah you should have been in jita where they sell for 1.18b, but where someone just sold one for 12.163.00 ISK Lol
Don't drink and sell.


LolI've had that before and I gave most of the money back, but not to that extent. Sucks to be that guy right now. They missed a lot of zero's
Amber Patoria
Division 13
#40 - 2015-09-15 07:47:33 UTC
I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess.

Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest.

And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. Big smile

4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. Pirate

From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually.

Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is.

Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor?

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