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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#1 - 2015-09-15 03:49:44 UTC
The cost of PLEX is getting a bit out of control.

There is hardly any sell orders in Amarr and plenty of buy orders, because nobody what's to pay 1.4 Bil. isk for a PLEX, but have no choice but to but a buy order at 1.2 Bil.

I had 5 characters and now I'm down to one, and willing to drop the last until the Citadel comes out.

I only complain because I am doing the My Eve forum post called "The Citadel Project" and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. for one character, when I could get 2 PLEX's a few months ago for that price. (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)

I have one day to make 200 Mil and I am about to do another post on the forum and it's not that much today since I had to play Eve this weekend to make isk for a PLEX.

Check me out at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425371&find=unread.

By next summer I should be doing some cool videos, I hope. Just building my models, before I can.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#2 - 2015-09-15 03:54:29 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight

I'm in it for the money

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Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#3 - 2015-09-15 04:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Ultim8Evil
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels?

EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert?

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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#4 - 2015-09-15 04:01:25 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.
Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#5 - 2015-09-15 04:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ultim8Evil
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.


To quote yourself: "I was a little bored of Eve last night, so I fired up "Cinema 4D" and spent 3 hours starting to create the new Citadel. So I am making this project and will post my progress as I go."

That 3 hours could have been spent making ISK for PLEX.

Or 3 hours working IRL to pay for game time.

In fact, scrolling through your Citadel Project thread... Day 6 you spent 13 hours on it?

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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#6 - 2015-09-15 04:07:15 UTC
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.


To quote yourself: "I was a little bored of Eve last night, so I fired up "Cinema 4D" and spent 3 hours starting to create the new Citadel. So I am making this project and will post my progress as I go."

That 3 hours could have been spent making ISK for PLEX.

Or 3 hours working IRL to pay for game time.

In fact, scrolling through your Citadel Project thread... Day 6 you spent 13 hours on it?


Yah, hopefully by next summer I'll make some good videos. I will be doing a lot more when the winter kicks in.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7 - 2015-09-15 04:11:03 UTC
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels?

EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert?

He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash.

Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort.

Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#8 - 2015-09-15 04:13:35 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight


Oh.. there is stuff. My Stuff Senses are tingling....

There are always dear objects that one cannot stand to sell in order to pay ones sub.. and I have a feeling OP is sitting on a nice pile of them.. id say... (*presses fingers to temples.. says OOOOOOWEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH like Mentok the Mind Taker) 5.2bil in assorted assets with id guess at least 900mil locked up in the other toons.

There is ALWAYS stuff man.. you just gotta have faith.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#9 - 2015-09-15 04:20:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels?

EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert?

He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash.

Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort.

Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active.



I Know. The fact that everything is player driven is what I love about the game and that's why I am a great station trader, but I have been busy and I could buy a PLEX now, but it cost 1.2 Bil isk.

But remember, I can come tomorrow with a fresh character, with no skills and make a bil. So it is all cool if I leave for a month or two.

Who wants my BPO's?

I am going to check on my character and then post my next forum.
mydingaling
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-09-15 04:27:11 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:



I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.


You don't play video games but the next sentence you do play video games. The most expensive paid option is $14.95 a month. That is $3.74 a week. Not exactly a kings ransom, even a street panhandler could afford it. Roll
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#11 - 2015-09-15 04:39:07 UTC
mydingaling wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:



I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.


You don't play video games but the next sentence you do play video games. The most expensive paid option is $14.95 a month. That is $3.74 a week. Not exactly a kings ransom, even a street panhandler could afford it. Roll



You guys are talking money. I only played this game to make the goal of going from trial to PLEX and when I did, I have been playing for? I think 9 months now.

First game I have ever played for more than one week. "Best Game Ever".

Can not wait for the Citadels. To bad they nurfed the drones since the Citadels can defend with drones.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#12 - 2015-09-15 04:51:38 UTC
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
(BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)


If you like Eve enough to spend countless hours on your little project, maybe you could show your appreciation to CCP by using some of your hard earned IRL cash to support the game instead of crying on here about the price of space pixels?

EDIT: Is this a PLEX price whine post or a covert Citadel Project advert?



I always support CCP with feedback and Singularity feedback and testing (I have never seen you in the forums).

The fact that I complain is normal and if you do not give your feedback makes you a drone.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#13 - 2015-09-15 05:08:06 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.

What's the difference playing a game and playing with a video editor? You're still not making any money either way. One is no better than the other. I've never used a PLEX, have always paid, and when I open an editor I usually do it to make money. A day or a weekend of work, be whatever the work is, but pays, pays for an entire year of EVE in most Western nations. Spend a weekend playing EVE to pay for a month, meh, that's just working below slave wages imo, not even a hobby but a second job, not even as good as using an editor as a hobby. I'd rather spend those hours and hours of farming for PLEX instead in an editor, then just play EVE when I just want to play EVE.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-09-15 05:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Don't know if CCP has any control over plex prices. Player base has dropped and people aren't buying plexes like they use to. At the same time, loot value has also dropped in isk value so what eve is experiencing is Inflation.

What exactly do you want CCP to do about this problem? Offer deadspace mods or geckos as a gift bonus per plex purchase?
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#15 - 2015-09-15 05:13:15 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.

What's the difference playing a game and playing with a video editor? You're still not making any money either way. One is no better than the other. I've never used a PLEX, have always paid, and when I open an editor I usually do it to make money. A day or a weekend of work, be whatever the work is, but pays, pays for an entire year of EVE in most Western nations. Spend a weekend playing EVE to pay for a month, meh, that's just working below slave wages imo, not even a hobby but a second job, not even as good as using an editor as a hobby. I'd rather spend those hours and hours of farming for PLEX instead in an editor, then just play EVE when I just want to play EVE.



There is no difference. I am saying I am busy doing my thing and doing the modeling that I do not have as much time to make 1.6 Bil. but I hope I can bring you guys and myself some nice Eve videos next summer and I will learn a lot by doing it.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#16 - 2015-09-15 05:18:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Daniela Doran wrote:
Don't know if CCP has any control over plex prices. Player base has dropped and people aren't buying plexes like they use to. What exactly do you want CCP to do? Offer deadspace mods or geckos as a gift bonus per plex purchase?



I heard they have stepped in before. I do not know, just complaining and getting a lot of reply's already. Going to do a quick post on my forum and then get back to some tunes and maybe some modeling tonight for tomorrows post.

I am thinking of making some computers for the command center or start working on a stealth bomber. (Just do not know which bomber to make yet first.)
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#17 - 2015-09-15 05:29:37 UTC
CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#18 - 2015-09-15 05:37:57 UTC
how many times must people keep posting this topic?

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#19 - 2015-09-15 05:42:23 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again.


Why? what happened?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#20 - 2015-09-15 05:45:57 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
There is no difference. I am saying I am busy doing my thing and doing the modeling that I do not have as much time to make 1.6 Bil. but I hope I can bring you guys and myself some nice Eve videos next summer and I will learn a lot by doing it.

Well the difference is then you have two hobbies, and you may need to pick one between the two if you don't have time for both. Or you have it backwards where you make EVE into work and the editor into a hobby which doesn't seem to work as the hobby will always win. And yes I know the learning curve of 3D modeling, thousands of hours of repetitive practice to even show intermediate work quality. That is your own set priority, putting other things and even learning your editor over EVE, and something only you can sort out if you don't want to manage a balance. Getting good at modeling takes years, and can be a burnout just as much as playing a game if overdone obsessively.

CCP can do nothing regarding PLEX. They have only slowed down steep increases, but there is no way to bring prices down other than making EVE suck. The Chinese server pays over 3b a PLEX last I heard, and with far lower PCU than we do. I find it more than likely TQ will hit 2b in coming years or even months possibly depending on circumstances. I welcome it, as there will likely be less people farming which does pump ISK into the system. It's claimed by some that PLEX doesn't effect the game, but I see it as a carrot for players to farm ISK where they would have not otherwise. Now they get spoiled on it and just leave the game feeling too entitled to pay, where as they may have not done so if PLEX never existed.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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