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The Moment you realize you're the bad guy

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Dirk MacGirk
Specter Syndicate
#101 - 2015-09-15 01:26:48 UTC
Ruh Roh, chatlog removed by ISD
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#102 - 2015-09-15 01:32:20 UTC
Dirk MacGirk wrote:
Ruh Roh, chatlog removed by ISD


it's mirrored like 10 places, show some gumption
Dirk MacGirk
Specter Syndicate
#103 - 2015-09-15 01:39:16 UTC
Faife wrote:
Dirk MacGirk wrote:
Ruh Roh, chatlog removed by ISD


it's mirrored like 10 places, show some gumption


Who says reddit doesn't have a reason to exist?
Dancul1001
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#104 - 2015-09-15 01:43:25 UTC
If this turns out to be true CCP better remove some ships, banning people from next years tourney doesnt do **** to combat the current problem plus its already happened to hydra in the past and that changed nothing
Leonardo Adami
Doomheim
#105 - 2015-09-15 01:46:10 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
Leonardo Adami wrote:
Hahaha, people are really surprised....?

no I'm not surprised, yet once one speaks the truth I want to see bans and max effort from CCP to make the tournament the way they pretend to (i.e. enforcing their B-team rule).

Or remove all rules regarding meta play and see what happens.

Quote:
Nothing in eve is fair

so what do you suggest? remove EULA all together, stop balancing things - Eve isn't fair.



I don't care what CCP does. It's clear they play favorites for players/corporations/alliances. And as far as fairness, Eve is a game that encourages its player base to cheat and exploit others. Doing this creates a certain culture in eve so good game to them for winning by any means needed.
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#106 - 2015-09-15 01:59:43 UTC
Mr Rive wrote:

Yeah it is, but then some of us care about the tournament too, and its not worth the frustration seeing this bullshit play out during the tournament, for the chance for a bit of hydra evasion trolling afterwards.

I agree -- the people involved should be exempt from the rules because of who they are.

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Taraas Enko
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#107 - 2015-09-15 01:59:53 UTC
I lost 20 bil betting on PL to win outright this is an out rage please refund my Isk
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#108 - 2015-09-15 02:12:04 UTC
Taraas Enko wrote:
I lost 20 bil betting on PL to win outright this is an out rage please refund my Isk


Please refund my moracha :(
Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#109 - 2015-09-15 02:33:43 UTC
I have known DHB Wildcat since we befriended each other in late 2005. He was FC for Huzzah Federation and I was a FC for Firmus Ixion. Lots of spirited fights with fun and respectful banter in local. Did alot of roaming with Wildcat back in the day and then played together a long time when he was Burn Eden. This is what I know about Wildcat ( I say this with affection because he is a old friend) "Wildcat is the last of the Honorbound F#gg*ts left in EVE". Think it's sad that Hydra did the predictable SMEAR POST after Wildcat manned up and told the truth.


PS. Wildcat you have my vouch for PL.

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Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#110 - 2015-09-15 02:44:38 UTC
Gonna poke Logibro with this but the proof is easy. Look at the item ID# on the Cambions & Malice fielded by Camel and just look where those items have been~

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MissBolyai
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#111 - 2015-09-15 02:47:17 UTC
Manfred Sideous wrote:
Gonna poke Logibro with this but the proof is easy. Look at the item ID# on the Cambions & Malice fielded by Camel and just look where those items have been~

Go back to space student council, nerd.

jk, love you manny

but not jk, csm is worthless
Makhpella
Bad Taste.
#112 - 2015-09-15 03:17:40 UTC
In Formula 1 this is common strategy.... thats why F1 sucks.
Caligula Gaius Claudian
The Wrong Turn
Dracarys.
#113 - 2015-09-15 04:51:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Caligula Gaius Claudian
Waiting for Bluemelon's comments. He had an interview after the AT as a winnner side representative describing what caused them to won this Tournament. Wonder if he was "aware" of the deal, knowing his activity in consolidating AT ships in his hands.
Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#114 - 2015-09-15 04:55:36 UTC
MissBolyai wrote:
Manfred Sideous wrote:
Gonna poke Logibro with this but the proof is easy. Look at the item ID# on the Cambions & Malice fielded by Camel and just look where those items have been~

Go back to space student council, nerd.

jk, love you manny

but not jk, csm is worthless



Was making the joke a few weeks ago to CCP Falcon: " The CSM is much like the CIA. The community knows all of our failures and none of our success's ".

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Dravyan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#115 - 2015-09-15 05:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Dravyan
Mr Rive wrote:
Dravyan wrote:
Mr Rive wrote:
Aryth wrote:
So lets see everyone on the teams banned from future AT's. All prizes siezed. We all knew they were Hydra A and Hydra B from the get go. CCP even knew but didn't have enough to do anything. Well, now you do and this isn't the first time this has happened.

If you want the AT to be anything but a farce you need to come down super hard.



...Everyone knew this was going on. We called it. I called it. I also said they played it very well, I stand by that. I sent CCP logibro a mail halfway through the tournament outlining what I thought was going on....


Let's go back to this for a second, because I find it ****ing astonishing. Was this an email or an evemail, can we see it?


I'd rather not make that public, as a courtesy to CCP. I mentioned it because logibro knows i sent it, I actually sent two over the span of two weeks about it. All I will say is the content was almost the same as what I posted in my OP, except included was my suspicions about what was going on, which match almost exactly to DHB's statement.

I know this isnt really good enough, but CCP can't act without proof. If they get that proof, I hope they take what I sent them into account.


I think it would probably be wise for CCP Logibro to be as transparent as possible on what was brought to his attention when and what was done with that information. The amount of punitive measures taken against "no shows", despite the light sanctions given to the current transgressors for previous cheating in the past, is a little disturbing. At some point you have to wonder if certain members of the CCP team are acting appropriately, and if its appropriate for them to stay employed.
Mark Hadden
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#116 - 2015-09-15 05:30:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mark Hadden
AT is ****. Glad, I completely missed it this year, turns out it was for good haha.
I'm also sure CCP will do nothing to fix it. Maybe its a better idea to completely scrap the tournament (after removing this year prizes all together), since prevention and investigation of stuff like described by DHB is almost impossible.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2015-09-15 05:39:45 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
Mr Rive wrote:
Besides, I dont think they deserve to get banned. They played a game with CCP and they lost. they deserve some recognition for almost getting away with it. They were very clever about it.


so, the message you want CCP send to AT community is "feel free to cheat, worst thing what can happen is you getting caught and your prizes seized"??
This would invalidate the tournament completely and turn it into a joke as everyone would try to cheat and some for sure get away with it. Who the hell would want to watch a cheater tournament, seriously?

If I'm not completely mistaken it was PL that abused locator agents leaking ship information to cheat in past tournaments.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#118 - 2015-09-15 06:22:43 UTC
So...both teams who share their prizes anyway, arranged the last fights of the AT?

How does that make sense? If the prizes are shared anyway, what's the point of going through all this trouble?

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Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#119 - 2015-09-15 06:38:30 UTC
I feel like you're all being trolled really hard.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2015-09-15 06:54:15 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
I feel like you're all being trolled really hard.

This whole thing doesn't add up. Staging matches when prizes are agreed to be split. A giant smear post with no mention of the chat logs. This is basically a list of how not to cheat.

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