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New Eden Capsuleer's Writing Contest - YC 117 - Winners Announced!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-09-13 11:13:51 UTC
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Contest updated.

I am no longer a judge.

I thank Ayallah for stepping in to take the 3rd judge slot. All 3 judges (a caldari, an amarr, and a minmitar) will judge all 3 categories.

Ma'am, I strongly recommend removing person known as "Ayallah" from the commission.
Reason: incompetence.
I would really prefer to see you in the place of judge and not turning it into a farce by allowing this individual in.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#22 - 2015-09-13 15:50:20 UTC
No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one.
Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#23 - 2015-09-13 16:40:29 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one.


She is however one of the few Matari that has a level in intellect high enough to actually be able to judge such a writing contest, unless cave paintings are now a category that needs judging? if so I'm sure Luna would love to have you on the panel.

Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
Arrendis
TK Corp
#24 - 2015-09-13 17:20:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Lucas Raholan wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one.


She is however one of the few Matari that has a level in intellect high enough to actually be able to judge such a writing contest, unless cave paintings are now a category that needs judging? if so I'm sure Luna would love to have you on the panel.


That was decidedly uncalled-for, sir. Mizhara's point about Ayallah's background and religious faith skewing her perspective isn't baseless when the objections raised originally were about cultural impartiality. While Ayallah has thrown herself rather forcefully into her Brutor heritage, to some that might only show a tendency to overcompensate, which would also inhibit impartiality.

Whether or not such concerns are warranted is certainly open to question. Regardless, they remain legitimate concerns, and to respond to them with snide insults says far more about your deficiencies than ours.
Gottin
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2015-09-13 17:40:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Gottin
Lord Kailethre wrote:
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Alizebeth Amalath wrote:
I look forward to reading all the submissions. I swear before God and Empress that I will be impartial.



I don't see how you can be, whilst maintaining your faith. The judges panel is effectively Amarrian. By definition, should a submitted work be 'heretical' or blasphemous, you would have no choice but to reject it or betray your own deeply felt beliefs. If I were a Minmatar revolutionary poet, for example - or even a Gallentean writer of gay bondage novellas - I would have no confidence in the impartiality of religious dignitaries judging my work.

The judges should be chosen to represent all cultures in a balanced manner. I applaud the proposal for developing and exhibiting new literature, but the selection and judging process is deeply flawed.


Perhaps instead of whinging about it, you could make your own secular writing contest?



Yes, do that instead of complaining about what someone else is doing. But that's just it, isn't it? You didn't think of having a writing contest yourself, and it takes much less effort and it's so much more emotionally gratifying to criticize someone else's event and project your own ethno-political predudice onto the judges.

Your're really something, you know that? You believe that race determines a person's viewpoint and you're accusing everyone else of it when the Amarr of all people are making the commitment to be impartial. Fortunately for you, your brand of racism is too subtle for the Matari to pick up on.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#26 - 2015-09-13 21:41:33 UTC
Do we simply title it: Writing Contest YC117?

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-09-13 22:47:36 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
That was decidedly uncalled-for, sir. Mizhara's point about Ayallah's background and religious faith skewing her perspective isn't baseless when the objections raised originally were about cultural impartiality. While Ayallah has thrown herself rather forcefully into her Brutor heritage, to some that might only show a tendency to overcompensate, which would also inhibit impartiality.

Whether or not such concerns are warranted is certainly open to question. Regardless, they remain legitimate concerns, and to respond to them with snide insults says far more about your deficiencies than ours.


My birth was not even remotely that forceful and I am not sure how I can overcompensate for my ethnicity. I would like you to elaborate on my background and religious faith but I know your knowledge is only anecdotal and your bias will not be budged so I will not bother.

Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one.


I am not Matari enough for the terrorist, what a shame.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#28 - 2015-09-14 00:45:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Ayallah wrote:
My birth was not even remotely that forceful and I am not sure how I can overcompensate for my ethnicity. I would like you to elaborate on my background and religious faith but I know your knowledge is only anecdotal and your bias will not be budged so I will not bother.


Ah, lovely. Gotten so defensive that someone pointing out that you - by your own statements - were neither born, no raised among the Tribes, is an attack? That again, by your own statements, your heritage as Brutor is something you came to later in life? Personally, Ayallah, I have no concerns about your impartiality. But I can understand why others might. It's not an attack to acknowledge that others' concerns are legitimate, even if I don't share them. But please, do continue to over-generalize and make unfounded accusations.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-09-14 01:31:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
I am hardly being defensive Arrendis. You are implying I have forcefully thrown myself into my Brutor heritage when all I have done is be born Brutor. Ergo, it is already my heritage. I have talked with many of my people who grew up in the Tribes and I have heard many stories and seen many monuments and own a large collection of old relics and books I purchased from Amarrian collectors which I then donated to museums. They seem to accept me as Brutor by the color of my skin when I go to visit Matar, never have I been stopped and questioned. But somehow for you, someone not even of the Brutor Tribe, I have not passed some undefined test. If pointing out the fallacy that I have to now 'do something' to be a part of my own heritage is being defensive, so be it.

Somehow as well, though you have completely unfoundedly attacked my impartiality on the basis I was not born within the Tribes I am the one over-generalizing and making unfounded accusations? The leap of logic to attacking me really is getting silly.

Either way this is not the point of this thread and I will no longer respond to these personal attacks in it. If you do not think the judges are fair then you will not submit a piece and not receive a portion of the money we are putting forward.

If you wish to continue this debate with me over "how Brutor I am" or whatever you people are mad about, find me somewhere else.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#30 - 2015-09-14 01:51:22 UTC
The original judges and Ayallah put the money down for prizes correct? If the judges are the ones who are paying out of pocket for this whys it anyone's concern how its judged? Write to your audience if your worried about being judged unfairly for what you write and if its that YOU are fearing being judged moreso than your work, don't enter. It's pretty simple ain't it?
Kador Ouryon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-09-14 02:02:23 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
The original judges and Ayallah put the money down for prizes correct? If the judges are the ones who are paying out of pocket for this whys it anyone's concern how its judged? Write to your audience if your worried about being judged unfairly for what you write and if its that YOU are fearing being judged moreso than your work, don't enter. It's pretty simple ain't it?


I doubt the authors even need to 'write to their audience'. A well constructed piece of writing is very evident among others that are not and somewhat transcends racial divides even if it's content is from a fixed perspective.

What fills the soul? Something that guides a lost child back to it's parents arms. Or waves that dye the shores of the heart gold. A blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. Or the path the Sef descend drawn in ash. In the wake of fire.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2015-09-14 14:03:52 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
The original judges and Ayallah put the money down for prizes correct? If the judges are the ones who are paying out of pocket for this whys it anyone's concern how its judged? Write to your audience if your worried about being judged unfairly for what you write and if its that YOU are fearing being judged moreso than your work, don't enter. It's pretty simple ain't it?


I'll also note that this is why this year we requested as a default that entries be posted on the Galnet site known as eve fiction for all to see (unless the applicant has a reason want not to). This adds a level of transparency to the process.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#33 - 2015-09-15 10:47:01 UTC
I have submitted my entry in accordance to the rules.

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#34 - 2015-09-17 16:45:38 UTC
Does it have to be a previously unpublished work, for this contest ?

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2015-09-17 17:39:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
That would be my preference. But I guess it depends on how widely published and where. If an issue, a contestant should contact me privately to discuss.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2015-09-18 15:36:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Updated Original Post with our first contest entries. I'll do this as the contest continues for ease of reference!
Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#37 - 2015-09-18 15:39:34 UTC
I have Written a short Poem.

it is about Aldrith Shutaq.

It is quite Short.

Synthia 1, Empress of Kaztropol.

It is Written.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#38 - 2015-09-18 16:52:23 UTC
*Aldrith Shutaq slow claps.*

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Sakura Nihil
Faded Light
#39 - 2015-09-18 23:26:23 UTC
Ouch. Low blow.

In all seriousness, assuming I find the time, I'll look into submitting an entry.

Glory

Faded Light is recruiting
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2015-09-28 16:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
At this point there is one month to go. Plenty of opportunities to show off you work and creativity remain!

With respect to Synthia's question, prior published works will be accepted as long as not previously published on the IGS or the galnet portal known as Eve fiction.