EVE General Discussion

Exactly this.
Apart from it being a bad idea, it's just giving reason for AUR to stay and grow.

What is your measure of success? Since we're talking about effectively micro-transactions I am assuming company turnover and more specifically profit?

It's too early to call on SWTOR. It looks like a good game but lets see it in a year's time. Remember it is one of the most expensive games ever written, estimated to have cost in the region of $300,000,000 to write and will clearly have ongoing maintenance and development costs, not to mention the massive technical infrastructure required to run an MMO.

I am not saying that I think TOR will fail but that you must wait at least a year before calling on it's success. What I am saying is that I think Bioware will be working hard to turn a decent profit from SWTOR.

WoW is unquestionably a success but I believe they became popular and mass-subscribed before introducing the micro-transactions. EVE is not what I would call "mass-subscribed" in the WoW sense - it is more of a niche game and it is clear that a large portion of the existing player base are against the idea of micro-transactions.

Just because MT has worked for another game/company it does not mean it can be froth-skimmed across the entire MMO community and expected to work as it has for Blizzard.

Would consider if executed right.

I, like many others, have wasted SP in skills we thought we might need WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT. Not knowing what key skills were needed or what direction we would take the toon.

I support this thread therefore CCP must make this happen.

Yeah man, I know! All that popular stuff is so mainstream and uncool, not like us hip and suave individuals in our classy obscure game.

I'm so glad nobody likes the bands I do!

edit: before anyone jumps to conclusions, do not mistake my disgust at the concept of "it's popular, therefore it sucks" as an endorsement of the OPs idea, or the idea that RMT makes a game good.

X Factor and Britain's Got Talent winners sell lots of CDs. So maybe all CDs should be by acts from Simon Cowell talent shows?

DUDE NEW IDEA... If your an idiot and trained your toon wrong there is a perfect way to fix it... SELL IT... AND STOP CRYING PUBBIE

this game is too hard for you? and now you want to pay for making it easier?
way to go

It's not so much “crazy” as “completely devoid of any forethought and without even the slightest consideration about how the skill system works and what the consequences would be.”

What you're asking for is something that…

…removes the point of having skills to begin with.
…removes the point of having attributes.
…removes attribute implants from the game.
…removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
…removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
…removes planning and choice and consequences.
…removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
…kills character trading.
…massively boosts older characters over new ones.
…introduces "catching up" as a concept in EVE and instantly makes it impossible to do.

…each of which is idiotic on its own, massively braindead put together, and then made much worse by making it a “but only for those who can afford it” feature.
Incorrect. You gain skills you did not already have, and chances are that you'll gain time-in-the-form-of-SP you wouldn't otherwise.
Sure. If you have to train those jump clones separately from the main clone.

I think the only way something like this would be even remotely tolerated would be:
-50% loss of skillpoints (If you want to recycle 1,000,000SP you would only get 500,000SP back). While this might sound high, it prevents people from harvesting combat skills (which they trained faster) for Charisma based skills.
-The skill points are accumulated back in to your queue at double your training rate until the surplus is gone.
-This can only be done once a month.
-Some skills cannot be reprogrammed (like Infomorph Psychology or skills that are dependency skills, no keeping BS skills and getting rid of Frigates*)

Example:
Say I want to recycle my Ice Harvesting V's 256,000 SP
I pay the Aurum for the amount to recycle (call it 1AUR = 100SP for now) which is 2560 AUR.
I get a learning buffer of 128,000 SP to apply to my skills.
The learning buffer will double my SP learning until the buffer is empty, it then returns to normal learning rates.
So, if I am earning 2000SP/hr normally, I will be earning 4000sp/hr for the next 64 hours (at which point the buffer is empty).

However, there are so many people rallied against this kind of thing I doubt it would ever happen. At least above you are imparting a significant penalty for doing it while allowing players to correct there errors in the past over time.

-Mad

*The need to code such a thing to reverse check skills might be far more work, and buggy, than CCP would want to mess with.