Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So im gonna assume this is a frigate since 300 - 400 dps range is quite common on cruisers. No theres no reason to give a cloaky frigate a 10 - 15k tank. Cloaky ships gets a covert ops cloak which is insanely good of a module theres no reason to give it 10 - 15k tank and 300 - 400 dps. Stealth bombers get if tanked usually ~7k ehp and about 370 - 550dps depending on how many BCU you put on them but they have to deal the damage with torpedoes which has one of the worst damage applications in the game.



Get a Minmatar/Gallente Recon this is pretty much exactly what you asked for.

Tackle ships need to be fast and agile, and fast and agile ships need to be squishy. The interceptor is basically an assault ship built for speed. If you want a variant of it with more tank and DPS, it'll have to have its speed reduced, and then it's no good for catching anything small and fast because it has no speed or tracking. Combat recon ships are good for catching medium speed ships, and they trade heavy DPS for a strong ability to hold the target down. There aren't any existing cruisers really built to be fast tackle, but you can very easily fit a strategic cruiser into that role if you want to.


I think there is a precedence for giving us fast tackle cruisers, but with less DPS output and a bigger focus on interceptor-like tackling ability and tank, with high maneuverability (for a cruiser) to supplement its moderate tank. It would be a heavy interceptor suitable for holding down a bigger catch that can fight back, or maybe just when you expect your fleet to take a moment to arrive and you need to survive for a while and not let the target go. It would not be prudent to give such a ship both good webbing ability and good DPS, or else it could be used to overly great effect in which it uses its webbing to allow its slow-tracking weapons to score good hits. That's a little too powerful for one ship.

Stealth bombers give up control for DPS, Recons give up DPS for control, and both of them give up maneuverability for sheer output. Force Recons and Stealth Bombers are nice for ambushing, but neither one is very good at giving chase. The covert ops role simply helps them to mitigate their large weakness without actually removing it.

Lol near bomber dps but can be applied to almost any target what could be unballanced about that?

and can we please have the jag and wolf head-lights back please?

With polarized launchers overheated and faction BCS, sure. Otherwise, no, they do not.

A standard bomber will do around 550-750 dps and is locked to one damage type

bullshit. they need HEADLIGHTS!

Putting covops cloaks on Assault Frigates would be fun.

No idea if it would be balanced, probably not without a lot of tweaking, but it certainly would be fun.

Really? If so why do I see almost zero AF's in use in small gang warfare anymore?

AFs were one of EvEs great pleasures but now they no longer have the speed, projection, damage or tank to deal with most T3Ds which have almost completely taken over there role. While I grant you that two to one AFs may stand a chance of taking down a Confessor if the pilot is inexperienced, unlucky or running without links but the chances are even if the Confessor doesn't score a kill it will be able to deaggro or tank until support arrives.

It is a shame but it is the how things have been since T3Ds were introduced.