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NPC Support - idea for solo pvp

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Joost Gallente
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-09-13 04:23:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Joost Gallente
NPC ship support that costs isk and has a limited time frame of use, like 48 hours

1 squadron of frigates - 250m
1 squadron of cruisers - 600m
1 battlecruiser - 300m
1 bs - 750m

players pay isk to concord and get their sidekick that responds to fleet broadcasts. 1 squadron = 2 ships.

thoughts? :)
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#2 - 2015-09-13 04:27:16 UTC
join a real corp and have that for free plus it actually accomplishes something and is actually fun
Joost Gallente
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-09-13 04:28:08 UTC
this is more for the ones that like solo pvp :) like myself
ISD Lyrin Rands
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2015-09-13 04:31:26 UTC
I've moved this thread to the Features and Ideas board since it's more appropriate for this type of thread.

ISD Lyrin Rands

Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-09-13 05:34:24 UTC
'Solo'
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2015-09-13 05:37:46 UTC
"Hey guys! Let's go on a roam!"
"Sure! Lemme get all my 'sidekicks' and I'll be ready."
"Indeed. I should get mine too!"

Congrats, you just came up with a mechanic that raised the bar for for everyone.

How did you Veterans start?
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2015-09-13 05:49:20 UTC
I thought you wanted to go on a Solo roam? How does a fleet of NPC ships fit into a Solo activity?

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Ferrucio Surge
The Bag Cartel
#8 - 2015-09-13 06:04:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferrucio Surge
"Call for Help!" Requirements: You must have minimum 8.0 standing with a faction which controls at least one system (this includes Pirate factions). You must be in a system with that faction's control (Gallente will not help you in Amarr space). Terms: Choose from three different kinds of squads, 50Mn ISK Frigate squad of 5, 75Mn Cruiser squad of 3, 100Mn Battlecruiser squad of 2. Helper NPCs will follow you anywhere in a system, but will not follow you out-of-system. Helper NPCs have a 2-hour timer. Helper NPCs will warp off/despawn if you dock or leave the system. 12-hour cooldown of use.
Ferrucio Surge
The Bag Cartel
#9 - 2015-09-13 06:20:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferrucio Surge
Helper NPCs will not help you if you are Suspect or Criminal flagged(Empire space). If you call for help, and then become Suspect/Criminal, they will warp off/despawn. Pirate Helper NPCs will attack everything including members of your fleet who are not 8.0 standing. Empire NPCs will only attack what is attacking you, including rats(but not other Empire NPCs). Helper NPCs will have similar difficulty level to LV mission rats, with buffs to weapons and tank. Intended for emergencies only. Helper NPCs are obviously not available in SOV space
Iain Cariaba
#10 - 2015-09-13 07:55:27 UTC
Here's a suggestion: try making real friends to help you on your roam. Shocked

Oh, you could even have real friends that you would be able to "Call for help" if you needed it. *gasp*

But then, why should you need to interact with real people in an online multiplayer game? I mean, whoever thought that you could get real people to do all these things you want NPCs to do?
Ferrucio Surge
The Bag Cartel
#11 - 2015-09-13 08:26:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferrucio Surge
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Here's a suggestion: try making real friends to help you on your roam. Shocked

Oh, you could even have real friends that you would be able to "Call for help" if you needed it. *gasp*

But then, why should you need to interact with real people in an online multiplayer game? I mean, whoever thought that you could get real people to do all these things you want NPCs to do?

Of course, having friends is preferable. At least you have to jump through a pretty big hoop to get what I'm suggesting(8.0 standing with the faction controlling the system you're in). He's suggesting you just pay for NPC friends to help you be a ganker, I'm suggesting an emergency-type benefit to being really good friends with a Faction. You can't expect your corpmates to be around 24/7 to help you, I don't even expect that in a 200-man null Alliance. With a minimum 8.0 standing and a pay requirement, though, I couldn't expect too many players to use this idea. I'm not gonna whine if you say "no" to my idea, but I can see more people saying "no" to just being able to pay for extra, buffed drones.
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-09-13 08:31:15 UTC
Joost Gallente wrote:
this is more for the ones that like solo pvp :) like myself

I assume you don't want belt rats? Because you CAN get those.

So what you would want presumably is an AI flown player equivalent ships. Then in what sense is that solo?

If you really like to solo just go lose a lot of ships for each of those one great fights like every great solo artist this game has ever produced.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#13 - 2015-09-13 08:34:47 UTC
I dont like telling people they eve wrong... Eve is great because it is many things to as many different people...

YOU ARE EVEING WRONG... Either get friends, get alts or get solo
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2015-09-13 09:11:19 UTC
Regardless if used for PVE or PVP, those prices would be way too cheap...
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#15 - 2015-09-13 09:50:51 UTC
Joost Gallente wrote:
this is more for the ones that like solo pvp :) like myself


Isn't it bad enough that if your into solo PvP nowadays that you need to invest in a second monitor and a link character to be competitive?

I find it ironic that you want people to start buying NPC support on top of that and claim to like solo.

Not supported.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2015-09-13 10:26:38 UTC
Eve sidekick : a Corp / alliance mate with a weaker will than your own that responds well to being shouted at.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#17 - 2015-09-13 14:32:37 UTC
"Solo
a thing done by one person unaccompanied, in particular."

I guess in an odd and twisted way he would still technically be solo since he would be the only human controlled character in this little fleet.

OK you can have this as long as I have the ability to bribe them to work for me by destroying you once you are out and about with your little gang. Would be especailly sweet if they would turn on you in the middle of a battle we were having.

To be clear on this

-1 because for all practical purposes you would no longer be solo.

-1 because solo is solo(see above) and should not include and escort of NPC ships.

-1 because at no time and in no situations should you be able to control the NPC, or even to hire them to help you.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#18 - 2015-09-13 14:35:03 UTC
Said it b4 I'll say it again npcs should never do what can be done by a player

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Adrindo Arandai
Council of Exiles
Brave Collective
#19 - 2015-09-13 18:22:39 UTC
this would just break any wars conducted in high/low sec
"hey theres a few guys we need to shoot at"
"but theres 10 of them and 2 of us and we are industry pilots, not pvpers"
"nah man we're good"
*hires npc*