Ships & Modules

So, im looking for a T1 ship (maybe navy version) that will do L4 in a very safe way, in a reasonable time.

I was thinking of either a:

-sniping domi with sentry

-an artilery Minmatar(not sure wich one)

-raven(but cruise take a real long time)

-sniping apoc

I'd like your tought about this and i would like a ship where i can transistion into the good missioning ship (pirate faction)

marauder T2 are out of the question for the moment since it would take too much time(maybe in a year ill think about it)

I fly in amarr space but id like a ship where i can mission agaisnt all faction

Thank you very much for the help

Missiles, drones and projectiles will probably give you the best options for applying specific damage types.

what im asking was: Wich one would be the best for my need

Raven.
You no need to learn cruise up to 5. Lvl 1 is just fine. The combination Furies + Raven is terrible. Instead invest in missile support and targeting skills.
Alternatively Scorpion Navy. But then cruise lvl 5 is necessarily.

I would recommend Gila.

In OP you wrote "very safe way".

Very safe - FoF Raven. Just keep in range and soon or later you w'll kill them (btw, drones are what you are looking for to kill frigates).
Very safe and relatively fast kill - Gila (full passive).
Very very safe and very very fast kill - Rattlesnake (sniper fit).

Missiles and/or drones for PvE. The other is just for fun.

No offence, fly in safe.

if you can fly amarr I had successful time with Geddon navy issue.
long range guns, MJD and 5 sentry drones.

if you want it cheap... sentry domi with mjd.

Would tempest sniping be better than domi sentry sniping?

In term of safenest and speed

um just no no no. It only matters if you are in a group, not if you are soloing or with a friend doing lvl4's. Incursions, yes it definitely matters, but lvl4's no it doesn't matter one bit really if the damage is instant or delayed. The only real trick is to not waste time and missiles by having the rat dead while another volley outgoing. So the trick is all about your timing, how many hits on what type of ship before switching to the next which will be out before the previous even pops.

Been flying CNR for years, a good ship for missioning. I also fly CNS, and more dominantly just a good old T1 raven with excellent skills. Choice depends on the mission, really. Sometimes I even bust out the Hawk
Other than that, I also fly Amarr ships, as well as pirate. Absolutely nothing wrong with the CNR, a very solid mission ship out of the box.

And yes, in the case of CNR/CNS you want cruisemissile V, and have good specialization at which IV is enough. Targeting is important too. Then fair drone skills. MJD is nice as well, though more important on CNR as CNS is tankier. Though MJD on CNS is advisable if you don't have good drone skills.


And you see the point I made, there really isn't "the best". It's all situational. If you really like missioning, then you will train on a number of ships.

Within the list you've provided, I'd go with the Domi. Afordable even for a budding new l4 runner, simple to operate though plenty of ways to push it further with better skill training, and flexible ranges and solid damage performance with sentries. Sadly, I'm not speaking from personal experience, but this is the unanimous praises I constantly hear from friends who have flown it for years, before and after tieracide. Raven would be my next pick, but only because what you learn in the Raven translates perfectly into the CNR and Golem should you choose to eventually run in either or both of those.

Which brings up another question: Is the specified goal to shoot and loot or blitz L4s? Based on the end goal the most desirable platform can vary significantly. I'd also echo the sentiments that safe and quick are mutually exclusive goals. Generally speaking, once you move out of T1 hulls into Faction, Pirate or even T2 you're going to have a lot more options available.