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Why does caldari militia fail? Your viewsplease

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Aerilis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#281 - 2012-01-01 21:59:02 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
Aerilis wrote:
Oh my this thread delivers.

/popcorn


Your internet was working long enough to load this thread? Shocked



Low blow bro, low blow.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#282 - 2012-01-01 22:06:56 UTC
DNLeviathan wrote:

im amased you still think this is all about you. no one really gives a rats ass where you are or what your doing. please do move back to black rise.
I care. After he and his terrorist gf Yuri were exiled from Intaki by Luminaire General Val Erian and the Federation plexing fleets, they traveled with their tails between their legs to the tribal lands of Hed in Minmatar space to seek the protection of those religious fanatics in the Amarr Militia.

From there they are rebuilding their terrorist network and, mark my words, will return stronger than ever in another attempt to take over my homeland!

We will have to drain the swamps, kill the Amarr corporations off one by one until we can get to that b*tch and run her out of low sec space once and for all!

err. wait... wrong forum. Big smile

Most things Damar whines about in these threads he and his friends do regularly on the Amarr front. Nothing wrong about it, but just a bit hypocritical.

BTW, Amarr are well-oiled machine all the way from plex warfare, T3 gangs, to titan hotdrops. It'd take a while for the Federation Militia to adjust if they took their show on the road.
DNLeviathan
Blue Canary
Watch This
#283 - 2012-01-02 16:46:41 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
[quote=DNLeviathan]


BTW, Amarr are well-oiled machine all the way from plex warfare, T3 gangs, to titan hotdrops. It'd take a while for the Federation Militia to adjust if they took their show on the road.


we are not here to fight amarr, we came here just for damarr
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#284 - 2012-01-04 07:04:53 UTC
for the sake of entertainment



/bump
DNLeviathan
Blue Canary
Watch This
#285 - 2012-01-04 13:25:23 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
for the sake of entertainment



/bump

indeed this thread has taken a sour turn since damar made it all about him again
Commander Lenix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#286 - 2012-01-08 04:16:00 UTC
I'd like to shift this back to the OP's question and would like to point out the main reason Cal FW "fails" is because the Gals have something the Squids have not had in a very long time.

Unity.

The Gals have several large corps that work together for the greater good of their militia. Us squids have dozens and dozens of smaller corps fighting among ourselves constantly arguing and bickering over the dumbest things.

Then when you get people who step up and try to fix things they are pissed on and **** on by other people that want the lime light or the power or control over Cal militia. Even though control is an illusion because there is no control in the militia. The only real control is inside the corps, which is the very reason why the Gals are so organized and able to work together better than the squids can.

When my corpmates and I first rejoined FW we had ideas about trying to bring the squids back to the glory days they used to have. But we quickly realized the squids were still doing the same old childish bickering and in-fighting that has been going on for a long time now.

The sad fact is the Squids won't become better until we get more larger corps working together and we stop pissing all over each other.

Until then my corp mates and I will continue doing our own thing. Having a blast every day while we fly solo and have small gang corp roams away from the arguments, blobs and spies that is currently plaguing the majority of Cal FW right now.
Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#287 - 2012-01-08 14:15:23 UTC
I've spent a long time in both Caldari and Amarr militias and have been in a couple of significant corps that have had an impact in the respective areas.

All we are seeing is what naturally occurs in the militias. The Caldari are weak atm, the Gallente are strong. But it wasn't always like this. The dominant side always chops and changes.
Jess Conell
Black Rise Guerilla Forces
#288 - 2012-01-08 14:28:57 UTC
Sorry, you´re wrong.

Actually Calmil is reorganizing itself.
Come and join - or stand besides, your choice.
But always remember - it takes time.
You can not turn a switch as you make to turn on a light-bulb.
It´s the path of least resistance to say all are fail, let´s make our own thing.

We had not enogh power to engage them in massive Fleets - but we are constantly growing up and engage them in guerilla style - sometimes fruitless , but we don´t worry about that.
Rome wasn´t build in a day and we´re actually not Rome but a small village :)

So stop make your own thing, come to Blackrise and fly with the Fleets there going on.
Join com´s, use the Intel-Channel and feed them.

So we can grown up and change the Balance of Power in that War.


Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#289 - 2012-01-08 15:08:48 UTC
You guys are so funny to think that the Gallente are organized. We used to be organized when we had the MDP. However, we tried to get really organized and focused, which lead to a lot of drama and hurt feelings. All we do now is share comms and intel channels (with every Corp having an admin), don't shoot each other, blue each other for fleet finder, and generally leave each other the hell alone.

Each of the corps would love to see us be more organized and focused, but each Corp has it's own take on things. We all realize that if it ever happens it will just happen organically over time. Any attempt by any Corp to run things will fail miserably.

This isn't to say the individual corps aren't organized. They are very organized, but in their own unique ways.

TLDR. Squids share comms and an intel channel, blue each other, and otherwise leave each other alone and you'll be fine.

.

Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#290 - 2012-01-08 20:32:29 UTC
JasonXXL wrote:
Okay, so what you are saying then is that you are elite because you can camp in a bomber/mission shitstar with frigs while you are most likely outnumering the camped in target by a fair bit, and you are compleining about the fact that Trov uses a carrier to rep his ship and a booster in a system where he is outnumbered 5 to one very often. I agree Damar, you are elite.


When was last time when you fought without rr securing your fight?
Commander Lenix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#291 - 2012-01-08 23:17:15 UTC
@ Andre Vauban. I didn't necessary mean Gal milita as a hole is organized. What I meant is Gals have larger corps that do things on a corp level, which , makes their ops more organized. You can get the fleets you want and fly how you want without arguments about proper ship types ect.

I just know that there were times when people like Gavin and Gunny would try to FC and it would take them an hour to get a fleet together because people would argue with them, or ignore the FC and do stupid **** resulting in dumb loses ect.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#292 - 2012-01-08 23:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Andre Vauban wrote:
You guys are so funny to think that the Gallente are organized. We used to be organized when we had the MDP. However, we tried to get really organized and focused, which lead to a lot of drama and hurt feelings. All we do now is share comms and intel channels (with every Corp having an admin), don't shoot each other, blue each other for fleet finder, and generally leave each other the hell alone.

Each of the corps would love to see us be more organized and focused, but each Corp has it's own take on things. We all realize that if it ever happens it will just happen organically over time. Any attempt by any Corp to run things will fail miserably.

This isn't to say the individual corps aren't organized. They are very organized, but in their own unique ways.

TLDR. Squids share comms and an intel channel, blue each other, and otherwise leave each other alone and you'll be fine.



I think it's more along the lines of organized in the fact that when one of you guys yell for help in your intel channel, 15 frogs come a running. With Caldari that's just not happening at the moment as people pretend to be AFK or just don't bother giving intel.

You can have 40-50 people in the Caldari intel channel and it will always be the same "few" people whom give intel or locations of Gal/neut/pie camps with often little but mostly no response. This is in contrast to what it was like maybe 4 months ago when there were a lot of active pilots that didn't pretend to be AFK and a lot more intel was given and actually received/acted on.

As far as joint comms Caldari had that in the past and it worked well, but as of late it's not worth logging on them because no one is there or if they are they are AFK. In the few weeks since I've been back, the most I've even seen on Cal Militia's Mumble was 8 to 10 people at once so I don't even bother logging on it and just do my own thing again.

I do think Caldari are starting to bounce back as yesterday I saw a decent sized T1 cruiser gang flying around (dunno if they killed anything) and today there was a nice faction/assault frig gang rolling around that bagged a few nice kills. As that sort of stuff happens more often activity will soon be back up and you Gals will be back to living in Heyidlies.. Bear
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#293 - 2012-01-09 01:19:20 UTC
Mutnin wrote:

I saw a decent sized T1 cruiser gang flying around (dunno if they killed anything) and today there was a nice faction/assault frig gang rolling around that bagged a few nice kills. As that sort of stuff happens more often activity will soon be back up and you Gals will be back to living in Heyidlies.. Bear



We killed an armor BC gang with our legion of lowskilled caracals, the BC gang even had logi but YORK and his blackbird stopped that Big smile
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#294 - 2012-01-09 01:53:16 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
Mutnin wrote:

I saw a decent sized T1 cruiser gang flying around (dunno if they killed anything) and today there was a nice faction/assault frig gang rolling around that bagged a few nice kills. As that sort of stuff happens more often activity will soon be back up and you Gals will be back to living in Heyidlies.. Bear



We killed an armor BC gang with our legion of lowskilled caracals, the BC gang even had logi but YORK and his blackbird stopped that Big smile


hehe nice
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#295 - 2012-01-09 03:40:28 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
Mutnin wrote:

I saw a decent sized T1 cruiser gang flying around (dunno if they killed anything) and today there was a nice faction/assault frig gang rolling around that bagged a few nice kills. As that sort of stuff happens more often activity will soon be back up and you Gals will be back to living in Heyidlies.. Bear



We killed an armor BC gang with our legion of lowskilled caracals, the BC gang even had logi but YORK and his blackbird stopped that Big smile


Yeah, we saw you guys and tried to get a fleet up, but we only had 4 folks active. Its been good to see you guys and some other new corps out and about lately.

Back to the thread topic - The caldari (and other states too) 'missioner' problem would get largely solved if they fixed them so you cant run level 4s with an inty and SB. People would have to fly real ships and would be interested in intel then. They would also have real risk to running the missions. No reason to pay attention to intel or leave FW if you can fly around in basically an uncatchable ship. Also, cloaky tech 3 cruisers are lame.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#296 - 2012-01-09 06:38:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Bad Messenger
Hrett wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
Mutnin wrote:

I saw a decent sized T1 cruiser gang flying around (dunno if they killed anything) and today there was a nice faction/assault frig gang rolling around that bagged a few nice kills. As that sort of stuff happens more often activity will soon be back up and you Gals will be back to living in Heyidlies.. Bear



We killed an armor BC gang with our legion of lowskilled caracals, the BC gang even had logi but YORK and his blackbird stopped that Big smile


Yeah, we saw you guys and tried to get a fleet up, but we only had 4 folks active. Its been good to see you guys and some other new corps out and about lately.

Back to the thread topic - The caldari (and other states too) 'missioner' problem would get largely solved if they fixed them so you cant run level 4s with an inty and SB. People would have to fly real ships and would be interested in intel then. They would also have real risk to running the missions. No reason to pay attention to intel or leave FW if you can fly around in basically an uncatchable ship. Also, cloaky tech 3 cruisers are lame.


It is not about missioners really. If you nerf fw missions people just go to farm something else, not go to pvp or stay as easy target.

FW missions are doing fine, they are taking people out from highsec and that is one of the main reasons for whole fw.

It is possible to kill mission runners but you have to see some effort and that is something FW players do not want to do.

When FW started it was popular because it was easy to join fleets and get some fights. Now there is too much whining about spies etc, it is not easy anymore and people are whining.

You have to look at mirror and think what went wrong.
JasonXXL
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#297 - 2012-01-09 14:00:42 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
JasonXXL wrote:
Okay, so what you are saying then is that you are elite because you can camp in a bomber/mission shitstar with frigs while you are most likely outnumering the camped in target by a fair bit, and you are compleining about the fact that Trov uses a carrier to rep his ship and a booster in a system where he is outnumbered 5 to one very often. I agree Damar, you are elite.


When was last time when you fought without rr securing your fight?


In anything armour tanked that is Bc or up I don't. That is the way my gangs work and how any armour tanked Bc or up gang should work imo.
Galatica789
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#298 - 2012-01-09 14:55:19 UTC
Caldari reorganizing its Miltia since 2008, Cowering since 2008 and complaing since.........................2008, dont forget running
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#299 - 2012-01-11 13:40:21 UTC
From an outsiders perspective the problem seems to be a combination of highly polarising personalities such as Damar and Hidden Snake, who have very specific views on how the militia should be doing things and are not particularly diplomatic about how they express those views, the fact that certain caldari LP items are so profitable you get more 'I'm only here for the LP' mission runners than any of the other militias and the simple fact that the caldari militia as a whole has always had a reputation for being **** at pvp even when they were winning.

Individual corps, like Wolfsbrigade for example, have managed to break that rep and get recognition for themselves but I cant think of a single corp currently in CalMil that doesnt have that millstone of the militias overall reputation hanging around their neck. Im hoping theres stuff I'm not seeing because I'm not part of CalMil, would be nice to see them recover and be able to give decent fights again.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#300 - 2012-01-11 14:15:51 UTC
After spending a couple weeks on holiday down south, I come here to tell you all that the Caldari Militia is doing great - in Amarr space.