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Player Owned Customs Offices - 100m? Seriously?
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Jita Alt666
#41 - 2012-01-04 02:38:38 UTC
I thought this thread died on the 2nd of December. I remember seeing Ghoest's post and thinking - well that is it, thread over. Marsan - what did you do?
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#42 - 2012-01-04 03:03:16 UTC
What are you expecting?

POCOs are powerful. You are taking exclusive control over the planet with the ability to decide who gets to use it and who does not, in addition to completely removing the tax from you and your friends, and the ability to generate revenue from anyone else who you let use it (I'm guessing tax revenue goes to the owner, though I'm not 100% on this)

To top it off, opponents need either a lot of ships or a lot of time to take one down, AND they need to come out again because it has a reinforced timer.


...100M is a very reasonable price given this. You're supposed to care about it and put effort into defending it. You aren't supposed to say "**** it, I'll just throw up another one tomorrow".
Thrawn Nostur
Impulsive Anarchy
#43 - 2012-01-04 03:35:56 UTC
Cur wrote:


With a fleet of 30 bombers it takes 3 hours to pop one



I dunno. I killed one with ONE SB and an Abaddon in just over 3 hours.
Olleybear
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2012-01-04 03:55:07 UTC
Kinda funny that some are complaining of the price of putting up your own POCU. Except for the LP and 10mil isk for the Gantry bpc, CCP doesnt set the price of cusotms. All of the parts to make the gantry and then upgrade to a customs office are sold by players. The players are setting the price.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.
Zleon Leigh
#45 - 2012-01-04 04:02:45 UTC
@OP the whole mess is stupid. So you over price the heck out of it and it has to be good, right? Follows the Aurum Theory of pricing...

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Mardero
#46 - 2012-01-04 06:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mardero
WTB X-Large POCOs with EWAR, guns, and defensive mods. Let's see how many dreads you'll need then.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#47 - 2012-01-04 06:27:14 UTC
Raven Ether wrote:
So in order to set up one of the new customs offices, one must invest 100m for a sitting fragile duck that can be blown to bits with a handful of ships.



Wouldn't.... 20m be a more reasonable cost? Why something so basic has to be that expensive and that fragile too. There really isn't a point in increasing their HP, they will still blow up it will just take longer, but the cost makes a massive difference.

When you need 600m to set up PI in low/null without NPC offices, you're just ****** as they might be blown up the next day.


You realize you can like, make stuff in this game, right?

All you'd have to pay is the taxes on the materials to make the POCO's, and the time involved in setting up the manufacturing. The blueprint can be had in exchange for LP.

So the cost is nowhere near 100M, but you will pay in time. HTFU and learn to play the game. Or pay someone else for their work.
pussnheels
Viziam
#48 - 2012-01-04 07:28:33 UTC
CCP really dislikes the little people you know , those 80 % of their customers are little people

Only the griefers and nullsec assholes are being being treated well by CCP

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-01-04 07:30:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
pussnheels wrote:
CCP really dislikes the little people you know , those 80 % of their customers are little people

Only the griefers and nullsec assholes are being being treated well by CCP


I am no-one and i am doing well .. thank you.
Granted i cant hold sovereignty in some null region and defend it effectively .. But why should i have such if i am not willing to put some effort in it.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-01-04 07:32:53 UTC
Deviana Sevidon wrote:


This happens when devolopers make changes without a clue or without caring for consequences.


They just like to change things up, keeps Eve from getting stale Big smile

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Zircon Dasher
#51 - 2012-01-04 07:35:50 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Deviana Sevidon wrote:


This happens when devolopers make changes without a clue or without caring for consequences.


They just like to change things up, keeps Eve from getting stale Big smile



Which says something about the player population since this is theoretically a sandox Lol

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-01-04 07:42:25 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Deviana Sevidon wrote:


This happens when devolopers make changes without a clue or without caring for consequences.


They just like to change things up, keeps Eve from getting stale Big smile


well planetary interaction was meant to work this way from begining...
First .. PI is waste of time
....
Ou wait nice ISK can be made
.....
I want to keep making ISK with PI, but now they wants me to invest ISK and defending forces
.....
Dust 514
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#53 - 2012-01-04 07:46:02 UTC
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
A lot of people predicted what will happen when CCP revealed their plan. Prices are already skyrocketing and with a number of producers just quitting on PI the prices of a lot of products related to POS production is also going to rise.

This happens when devolopers make changes without a clue or without caring for consequences.


Pfft my PI is now making me bajillions

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
W1rlW1nd
WirlWind
#54 - 2012-01-04 08:49:20 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
... 80 % of their customers are little people


You brade runnah?
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