EVE General Discussion

I think it has more to do with not thinking the game is worth 15 a month then not actually being able to spend 15 a month in most cases.

its not really saving though is it? you pay for the gym, saving would be going out for a run, satelite tv, saving would be running kodi or similar for free, its just a selective cost you prefer not to pay, eve gives me more entertainment for £9.99 a month than my sky subscription which cost me £70 a month (i got rid of that to run a free service). but its also your choice to run 5 accounts, you dont need 5 accounts to play eve.

do you think that the price of plex is going up because its actually too easy to make isk in the game?

One of the ways to stop being poor in real life is stop playing video games when you could be earning extra money. You have enough time to generate PLEX in a video game but not enough time to improve your life situation?

We are talking about 50 cents (USD) a day per account here. That's 0.44735 Euros, or 0.32511 British Pounds per day per account.

I PLEX because I make lots of excess isk doing what I enjoy in game (Shooting NPCs), and the way i work leaves me with time to do that, but if I had to pay, yea I could afford 60 bucks a month for my 4 accounts, and I've got 1 kid in college and I help my other daughter with her bills because of a job loss. All this on top of all the other expenses we have with my wife working part time and me making a public servants salary (I won't be buying any yachts any time soon).

We're talking about a video game here. No one owes you access to a video game dude.

If you feel PLEX are too expensive, buy 100 of them and dump them in Jita for about 700K. Be part of the solution instead of crying about it. I hope they keep going up until all the people that whine about PLEX prices GTFO.



So they'd rather spend 10 or whatever hours grinding missions? Seems legit.

If I don't think a MMO is worth $15 a month, I don't play it. Even with "F2P" MMOs I do the sub thing rather than be nickel and dimed or put up with free player restrictions when I'm feeling the itch for some SWTOR or LOTRO.

plex will hit 1.5b within next 3-6 months, that's the highest it will ever get and will stay like this

PLEX will continue to rise.

Even I, on my own meager isk income, am immediately converting profits into PLEX as soon as I get sufficiently past my reserve wallet.

Im relatively new to EVE, without established income sources/developed alts, plagued with wrong skill choices that provide very little at great difficulty (Minmatar is a crapshoot, btw, except for Machariels, that I cant fly due to stupidly training far in its cruiser line) , and also a student atm.

Why do I do this?

Honestly, I cant afford sub for 1 account that has become unprofitable, let alone for the alt accounts that were supposed to enable me to earn more through its support.

Atm I focused on earning as much isk as I can with my misguided capacitiess, inorder to PLEX my accounts for as long as I can, for training into the "right way" to generate sustainably enough isk to PLEX themselves and allow me to participate reasonably in the activities I enjoy.

I am readily, and apparently, playing EVE "wrong", in terms of profit, but Im doing my damndest to recompense and stay in the game, on a PLEX basis.

This has less to do with the price of PLEX, and more to do with me not having understanding how to earn isk properly.

I cannot buy PLEX or a sub.

So instead Im am struggling and fighting to remain in the game, with ingame means, which with my misguided and unprofitbale choices, had become very difficult. Ive got about 2-3 months left, if I liquidate all my assets. After that, I dont know. Maybe Ill finally find a job alongside my studies to sub to keep atleast one character training till things get better both IRL interms of income, and also ingame in terms of finalky making enough isk in the right ways.

If anything, what pisses me off the most, is that I didnt join the EVE community years before I did.
Thats my own fault.
Atleast then I would have developed characters with enough adaptability to roll with the changes and still pump out good isk, and connections to support that.

Im also going to try invest ehat I have left in some trading with some limitied hauling, to try and scratch together a few more millions, though tbh Im likely to lose more than I win, as its a new endevour for me.

TLDR: Its lean and hard times for PLEXing newer players. We, if anyone, are feeling the crunch and fighting the hardest to stay in the game. If anyone has suggestions or offers of employment/opprtunity, please do not hesitate to mail me with them.

Main on Minnie T2 cruisers with primarily arty and shields training (big mistake). Loki training in progress, in hopes that will provide a new potential angle. Primary alt account (also (fail) Minnie), that currently mines Ice to produce some income while training, but cant decide between being a covops scout, or explorer, or stealth bomber, or whatever, to suppoet my main. PI account/characters has been a resolute failure.

I can just about make the PLEX cost per month for all on my main with frequent and intensive combat exploration, but I have no capital remaining afterwards, especially including my drunken fails flying a Muninn in 5/10 escalations.

Im really straining atm. My meager goal would be to earn enough isk to multitrain 1 additional character per month, so as to diversify my options and content in EVE progressively, but its very hard to do so.

Im constantly trying to improve, and do a great deal of reading/research, but I think some of my initial decisions have been counterproductive, and Im paying for them now.

I hope its just a small slump /gap have to overcome to establish myself, to reach a certain SP critcal mass, but goddam, Im really scraping the bottom of the barrel for every dreg atm. Il bring every 5k module I can to market. Im picking pennies off the floor.

TLDR: PLEX price, in and of itself, is not my problem. Primarily my problem is failing to understand how to generate that isk. Secondary, but linked to this, is many space rich players who buy PLEX with impugnity, because their characters are so established/skilled that the cost is trivial. Talking about players with 20+bil in assets, and characters with SP in multiples of my own. Hoe van I compete with that? Not that Im not trying, and will continue to do so. Just gotta pass the hump.

How do you, Frostys Virpio, make isk in EVE?

It sounds like you are poor. There's nothing wrong with being poor. But you are definitely poor. Why be mad you have to pay for things though? Is CCP supposed to subsidize you because you paid for their game at some point?

120l fuel tank?
Games produced in the west have western prices. Everything there have western price. Even when its made in the east.

£1.13 a litre for Diesel last time I noticed.