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Thunderdome - July 2015 series!
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Lodestone Toyee
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#461 - 2015-09-10 04:07:14 UTC
Eh, I feel really bad to have held up our thunderdome at this critical point. When I first signed up I had plenty of spare time, but things have changed a bit since then.

I'm back on track, so we can get this done today or tomorrow (or Friday).

See you on the battlefield Valkin :D
Valkin Mordirc
#462 - 2015-09-10 05:04:16 UTC
*Sqeeeeeeeee* Big smile
#DeleteTheWeak
Lodestone Toyee
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#463 - 2015-09-11 08:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lodestone Toyee
gf!

Killboard


This was a fight between two of the tankiest BCs of all time. It lasted both longer and shorter than I thought it would.
Video
Im not very good with the "canned" inventory managmenent, so most of it was me fumbling around with cap boosters Oops
My guns didn't get burned out, but my module and drone management was kinda poor. Had I not been so overtanked it could have swung the other way quickly.

I used to believe the drake was a lie, but maybe it had its moment of truth today. Smile
Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
War and Wormhole
#464 - 2015-09-11 10:48:21 UTC
Losing those nos' and switching an LASB for an XLASB would have effectively doubled your tank. Capless weapons and capless tank doesnt need the nos'.

Gfgf
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#465 - 2015-09-11 17:39:41 UTC
I'm looking forward to the video.

Also, I'd like to point out that the long-awaited and long-overdue Battlecruiser buffage has just been announced over in F&I. Good lord, I'm thinking we should have a special edition CBC round once they've been released....

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#466 - 2015-09-11 17:51:21 UTC
Cut out the July part and just run it as fall thunderdome, very very slow brackets its like watching golf happen

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#467 - 2015-09-11 17:56:27 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
Cut out the July part and just run it as fall thunderdome, very very slow brackets its like watching golf happen

Leto & I have already discussed this. All future brackets will have a time limit on arranging each match. If one or both participants don't make an effort to arrange a match, they get dropped. We're thinking a week.

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#468 - 2015-09-11 18:07:07 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Cut out the July part and just run it as fall thunderdome, very very slow brackets its like watching golf happen

Leto & I have already discussed this. All future brackets will have a time limit on arranging each match. If one or both participants don't make an effort to arrange a match, they get dropped. We're thinking a week.

Should run a open ended double elimination starting with frigates then working up to battleships, 2 and 3 rounds should be a ccruiser varient of each other 2 nd round being t1 cruiser only the 3rd bringing out the t2 side, battlecruirs in the semi finals and battleships for the main event, its how I'd do it... But its not my show.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#469 - 2015-09-11 18:22:04 UTC
Personally, I have found the cruiser fights seem to have been the most entertaining. They're a good mix of durability, speed, and variety, but I think we should definitely find ways to incorporate different hull sizes.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#470 - 2015-09-11 20:59:30 UTC
Lodestone Toyee wrote:
gf!

Killboard


This was a fight between two of the tankiest BCs of all time. It lasted both longer and shorter than I thought it would.
I'll upload the video here in a few hours from now.


I used to believe the drake was a lie, but maybe it had its moment of truth today.


Awesome. Really looking forward to the vid.

Bracket updated

Lodestone, let me know when you are available. I am good all weekend or any time after next Thursday.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Lodestone Toyee
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#471 - 2015-09-13 02:02:14 UTC
Next Thursday would be ideal, if its not too long. I'll also make the necessary preparations so there will be no waiting on me again after that.

Maybe we should set the finish date of this thunderdome to next weekend, if that's okay with everyone.

(alternatively, if people have their hearts set on thunderdome ending this weekend, i'll resign so that's possible.)
lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
#472 - 2015-09-13 06:41:10 UTC
Personally I don't think one more week of waiting carries a lot of weight at this point :P
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#473 - 2015-09-13 08:19:58 UTC
Lodestone Toyee wrote:
Next Thursday would be ideal, if its not too long. I'll also make the necessary preparations so there will be no waiting on me again after that.

Maybe we should set the finish date of this thunderdome to next weekend, if that's okay with everyone.

(alternatively, if people have their hearts set on thunderdome ending this weekend, i'll resign so that's possible.)


Nah. You have earned your spot. We will finish when we finish.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
#474 - 2015-09-19 14:15:38 UTC
sup?
Lodestone Toyee
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#475 - 2015-09-20 01:17:22 UTC
I'm fitted and ready to go, just trying to catch Leto online.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#476 - 2015-09-20 05:46:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Lodestone Toyee wrote:
I'm fitted and ready to go, just trying to catch Leto online.


I'll be online tomorrow. Send me a mail so I can see when your on. (I check it on my phone)

Edit: Football game until 2000 HRS EST. Ill be on after that for my death in a fire.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#477 - 2015-09-21 01:28:42 UTC
And the victory goes to lodestone!

Bracket updated

Next up is the noob ship match.

Good fight!

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Lodestone Toyee
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#478 - 2015-09-21 01:51:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Lodestone Toyee
Gf indeed!
Kill
Video
I was really worried about this fight, since the Raven has many predators. It has a very solid tank when not under neut pressure though.

I had wanted to bring a scorpion too, but got dissuaded by its dps. Most active tanked Battleships I've seen (with boosters/shiny mods) take at least 1k dps to break, so I found myself forced into a raven.
Props to Leto for coming up with the depot idea though. When I saw it appear I was confused, but after I was permajammed I understood why Blink

Bronson, i'll contact you in game and we can arrange a time. I'm clear most evenings this week except Tuesday.
Lets close up this thunderdome in style. Big smile
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#479 - 2015-09-21 02:01:12 UTC
Lodestone Toyee wrote:
Gf indeed!
I'll post the vid here as soon as I finish processing it.
Kill
I was really worried about this fight, since the Raven has many predators. It has a very solid tank when not under neut pressure though.

I had wanted to bring a scorpion too, but got dissuaded by its dps. Most active tanked Battleships I've seen (with boosters/shiny mods) take at least 1k dps to break, so I found myself forced into a raven.
Props to Leto for coming up with the depot idea though. When I saw it appear I was confused, but after I was permajammed I understood why Blink

Bronson, i'll contact you in game and we can arrange a time. I'm clear most evenings this week except Tuesday.
Lets close up this thunderdome in style. Big smile


And I was hoping you didn't bring auto targeter missiles. But you did.

Boom.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Lodestone Toyee
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#480 - 2015-09-21 09:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Lodestone Toyee
Is there a way to dislike posts? If there was I really would dislike this rookie ship idea.

Not everyone has a 300mil edition rookie ship they've been waiting to use, and from the crafting I've done so far it seems like the limited edition rookie ships are incredible improvements over the T1s. They are so much better in every respect. (I'm willing to retract this statement if someone wants to step up and prove me wrong)

Of course its possible to lose in one, but clearly the advantage goes to the person(s) who are willing to shell out 300mil on a rookie ship in this bracket. A quick comparison between the taipan vs the ibis, or the violator vs the velator, clearly shows the advantage the limited edition has over the T1. 50% more primary slots, plus massive utility and damage bonuses make faction rookie ships clearly the way to go. Since frigate duels like these end rather fast(usually), the person with 50% more dps/tank from their faction rookie ship is very likely to win unless mistakes are made.

I don't mean to complain because I normally reject the notion that pvp (especially this thunderdome) is pay to win. Eve is a marvelously balanced game and its awesome to see cheap ships beat shinier ones.
I don't think that balance exists, or was intended to exist with the special edition ships. I would have mentioned this earlier, but I wasn't considering this bracket since I assumed I would be knocked out long ago.

Anyway, felt I would throw out these thoughts before the match to prevent the possible "hes butthurt he lost". In the name of providing content I'll gladly continue, just wanting to know if anyone else had considered these implications of a rookie ship duel.

tl;dr
grr I would prefer to spend 300mil on a more practical endeavor.