Ships & Modules

Yup. If I were to actually build and run a nightmare I'd do something like this:

[Nightmare, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

100MN Afterburner II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Medium Nosferatu II
Medium Nosferatu II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

Hammerhead II x5

The idea being that I can near perma run the AB, Guns and hardners without the need for the cap booster or NOS while increasing your warp speed to within bearable limits. If you need more cap use NOS when low and if you need even more then the Cap booster comes in.

An alternative build would be to rely more on the cap booster by dropping the cap rechargers and heck by that point the CCC serves almost no purpose so drop that as well. Put on two TCs and your choice of rig (Another HVO II or maybe a mobility rig) and then in the lows replace the two TEs with Nanofibres because 11.3 sec align time (without the AB on even) is absolutely stupid. With two Nanos you get same align time as a mach.


[Nightmare, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

100MN Afterburner II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Medium Nosferatu II
Medium Nosferatu II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Hammerhead II x5


Hmmm, might be buying a new toy tonight

Thank you for your informative and helpful feedback, I will take your advice to heart and change my fit accordingly, that is if I had so much as an inkling as to what the heck is wrong with it.

Though going by the rest of your post I think I'd be better off getting advice from someone else, not that anything you've posted constitutes advice

Op asked for laser boat PvE fits and considered a paladin but doesn't have marauder skills (but maybe enough money for one). posting nightmare fits isn't exactly random. Might need to skill up Reading Comp to V there.

Regardless, going to test the fits out myself to make sure I didn't miss anything obvious

Ah wait a sec, you guys still stuck on the silly cap stable fit I posted a page back? The one I specifically said was nonsensical?

Edit: Managed to do recon 1 1st room without warping out (bloods) as a test. Though I'd probably replace the AB and nanos for that mission with tank n cap to make it a bit easier. (using my last fit I posted)

if all the crabs can stop arguing, ill post a proper pve navy geddon:

[Armageddon Navy Issue, pve]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Capacitor Power Relay II

100MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Curator II x5
Infiltrator II x5
Acolyte II x5


all amarr drones in true amarr style, tanked vs blood raiders. 937dps with scorch and curators out to over 50k. tanks 500 dps. 6m15s cap without the nos, 18m with. this has plenty of cap to swim through lvl 4s.

it's a convenience thing

for some people it's a valid fitting choice if the ship
- still kills 'all the things'
- still tanks 'all the things'

not everyone is motivated by isk per hour ratios

I have seen countless nubinns with the notion that being capstable is a must, which is a) very hard for a new player with crap cap skills and b) actually not that useful a thing outside of some pve fits

Now I remember having this notion also, as did the lads I started playing with and iv been poking new players about it to see if my initial thoughts on the subject were correct.

Essentially the visual language of the capacitor in the fitting screen tells us that
cap stability is good (green yeaaay \o/ )
and unstable fits are bad (red booooo /o\ )

This is frequently something we need to correct newbie players on when fitting for PvP, now I'm not saying ohhh woe are we needing to repeat ourselves, or that one can't figure it out given a little bit of getting shot in the face but it strikes me that the ui actually seems to mislead the newbies consistently with this .

I don't think cap stability is all that important, but I also found missions intolerably boring from the get-go. The mentality of needing that steady-state is probably tied to the mindset informing the average mission runner's worldview.

Nightmare is a shield ship. Once you get T2 pulses (and the all mighty scorch) you can fit it a lot (nearly identically really) to a pulse shield fit cap booster PvE Minmatar ship. Maybe a cap mod or two extra just to cover the guns so you don't use cap charges just so you can shoot. Coming from the exact same background as the OP that would be my advice.

lol loot.