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RcTamiya
Magister Mortalis.
#21 - 2015-09-09 11:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: RcTamiya
Doku Dakar wrote:
RcTamiya wrote:
Ex-C3-Runner reporting in :)

Try to prefer C3s with static low-sec, the traffic is a lot lower, static 00 has close to 0 traffic (most of the time).
If you have 2 toons to roll WHs, i recommend to check the targetsystems + 1 level deeper and then quickly roll most connections with 2 higgsfitted BS (total~ 400mil investment), most WHs will only need 2 max 3 passes.
After that as long as no new sig pops up or somebody comes from your own wh you can run sites pretty safe

As perfect cheap farming setup i recommend 3 rr-myrmidons, the entire "fleet" repaid itself after less than 10 sites (without insurance), if you want fits just poke me ingame :)

However, low-class wormholes are only having more traffic, because everybody uses them as accespoint/highway to kspace, the higher classes are deserts/carebear wonderland.

Allways keep an eye on dscan + stay aligned to somewhere and you are fine :)


Never thought or seen RR Myrms to do them but makes good sense. We used to run our C3 static sites with an AB XLASB scimi, 1k dps oracles with only LSe + 2 invulns for tank and a frig killer like a cane. It scaled up from 4 to 10 people real nice by just adding more oracles. I appreciate that there's probably 1000 ways to run these sites effectively though.
Or more
sweet sweet carebear wonderland. The WH PvP corps based in C6/5/4/2s are more in the habit of scanning down their WH chains which include usually around 10 systems or more including mostly WHs. If it feels like there's a potential fight in those systems then they may keep the connection open and hunt it down so keeping a loose eye on those 10 connections for activity. If you're killing sleepers and are in one of those 10 systems then the WH pvp Corp will travel up to 5,6 maybe 7 WHs through their chain to shoot you. So its worth keeping a cloaky scout listenibg on you WH connections even if that neighbouring WH looks empty



very simple fit: 3 energy transmitters (medium) 2 reps (medium)
tracking computers + drone navigation and mjd in mids
no plate, c type nano membranes for resists and a t2 eamn + dda

rigs 1 rr augmentor 2 for reduced energy transfer energy consumption ( i am at work, can't look their name up, guess it was port egrees optimizer?!)

~ 700+ dps with ogres -> 3 of them needed to tank all c3 sites, total dps ~ 2.1k, fleet is worth ~ 20-30 mil with platinum.
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-09-09 13:15:14 UTC
Myrmidon has 5 HiSlots ... maybe it's alread some time ago you played in C3s?

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
RcTamiya
Magister Mortalis.
#23 - 2015-09-09 13:34:38 UTC
HoruSeth wrote:
Myrmidon has 5 HiSlots ... maybe it's alread some time ago you played in C3s?


was a typo 2 med reps , 3 energy trans
thx for bringing it up, yes last time i used my myrms (who are still in my hangar though) was last year ~ november
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-09-09 13:45:40 UTC
But how do you reach such dps? 700 with Ogre?

sure your fitting is valid? I can only reach that with pimped fitting and at that time I can also use 2x Dominix at the same price tag with the same dps as a "T2 Myrmidon", so a 3rd Character would just make it more worse for the Sleeper with a 3rd Dominix.

Maybe you can post the exact fitting lateron?

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
RcTamiya
Magister Mortalis.
#25 - 2015-09-09 13:53:38 UTC  |  Edited by: RcTamiya
HoruSeth wrote:
But how do you reach such dps? 700 with Ogre?

sure your fitting is valid? I can only reach that with pimped fitting and at that time I can also use 2x Dominix at the same price tag with the same dps as a "T2 Myrmidon", so a 3rd Character would just make it more worse for the Sleeper with a 3rd Dominix.

Maybe you can post the exact fitting lateron?


Yes somewhere around 700 dps pre dda nerf was working, i wrote the fit up above, 3 DDA + trackign enhancers give you more real dps than shown in eft, if almsot every single hit is a wrecking hit you reach higher DPS than in eft, in eft you sohuld be at ~ 500-600ish dps

EDIT:
[Myrmidon, Unnamed loadout]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II

Medium Micro Jump Drive
Drone Navigation Computer I
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script

Medium Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Medium Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Medium Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Egress Port Maximizer I


Ogre II x4


that's almsot my fit though, but oyu guys get the idea :)
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-09-09 14:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: HoruSeth
Yeah, got the idea already.
Build the fit a little different, but quite similar.

[Myrmidon, Unnamed loadout]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II

Medium Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Drone Navigation Computer II

Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Egress Port Maximizer I

Ogre II x4

I assume WASP might be another option due to higher speed as spawns are quite far away. Higher Tracking might allow for 2x Tracking Link + 2x DNC??
Above fit is capstable >80%

With 2x DNC I you can get the tank from 693 to 724.

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
Doku Dakar
Nova Prospect Enterprises
#27 - 2015-09-09 15:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Doku Dakar
Horuseth I think you need to go to specsavers.... Its 99% the same fit. No material difference
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-09-09 15:43:56 UTC  |  Edited by: HoruSeth
Doku Dakar wrote:
Horuseth I think you need to go to specsavers.... Its 99% the same fit. No material difference


Forgot your Googles?

Edit: I would think a lot more Cap and a lot more Tank and more Drone Speed is a little more than 1% difference here, don't you think so?

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
Doku Dakar
Nova Prospect Enterprises
#29 - 2015-09-09 16:13:19 UTC
HoruSeth wrote:
Doku Dakar wrote:
Horuseth I think you need to go to specsavers.... Its 99% the same fit. No material difference


Forgot your Googles?

Edit: I would think a lot more Cap and a lot more Tank and more Drone Speed is a little more than 1% difference here, don't you think so?


Found my goggles. 1v1 top belt?
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-09-09 16:18:29 UTC
Doku Dakar wrote:
HoruSeth wrote:
Doku Dakar wrote:
Horuseth I think you need to go to specsavers.... Its 99% the same fit. No material difference


Forgot your Googles?

Edit: I would think a lot more Cap and a lot more Tank and more Drone Speed is a little more than 1% difference here, don't you think so?


Found my goggles. 1v1 top belt?


Yeah!
Procurer or Retriever?

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
Ujagar Sommdax
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-09-10 12:25:08 UTC
I use two ishtars to run sites in c3s and the fit is on smium: https://o.smium.org/loadout/38025

Its much similar to the myrm fits, but it doesnt have the drone nav comps because shield tank.

You can probably get away with less bling (the navy amp and extender are only ~40m each), but it would make the 3rd wave of outpost strongholds a little harder - you may have to heat invul. Still using geckos cuz theyre moving same speed as hammers <3

My 3rd char is salvaging with a cloak and two warp core stabs.

I dont pve if there are lot of connections, but I dont mind a single or two connected wormholes, as long as they are scanned down and are dead-ends leading to either null or lowsec.

I'm super tempted to move into a c3-null wh - that sounds like secure ratting and good pvp opportunities in null.

-jaeger
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