Crime & Punishment

Regarding FacPo & CONCORD:

I'd be okay with eliminating FacPo response to simply undocking in hisec with low sec status. Strictly speaking, it doesn't serve to protect anyone it only serves to limit the behavior of folks who's security status is too low. Some people may complain about taking away a punishment for low security status, but FacPo is generally more of a nuisance than a punishment once you learn how to deal with them so I don't think this should be a huge concern. The benefit here is driving player content as opposed to NPC content. With FacPo weakened or eliminated, criminals would be more likely to fly bigger ships in hisec, thus making it potentially easier for White Knights to track them down and engage them before CONCORD arrives.

I'm going to admit my own ignorance here for a moment and ask a question: if someone engages a -10 player in hisec, thus earning both players a limited engagement, can the -10 player retaliate without provoking CONCORD? If this is the case, then removing FacPo could open up a whole new world to folks who want to cruise around looking for fights: simply undock in hisec as a -10 and wait for folks to attack you. Talk about content! If this is not the case...why the heck isn't it?

As for CONCORD, I think it should be left as it is (i.e. untankable, unescapable NPCs, or UUNs) for now. One of the core dynamics of hisec is that if you criminally aggress someone, CONCORD relieves you of your vessel in very short order. This would be an awfully huge change to make (or, strictly speaking, un-make) and I'd like to consider other issues first, but I'm open to ideas. I think mechanics that allow players to more easily assist CONCORD would be fabulous though.

I'd rather admit my ignorance up front and ask than feign knowledge and prove my ignorance in a humiliating fashion.

Thanks.

I agree that removing FacPo response to low sec status characters would be very cool for everyone involved. Low Sec Status players would still be free to shoot at, and you can gang up on them (as long as everyone shoots the same criminal, only one criminal can shoot back at a time without invoking Concord).

Without the imminent threat of FacPo gank fleets would be much more likely to sit in space while waiting for the perfect warpin (rather than warping around like they do right now) creating an opportunity for White Knight fleets to scan them down, land in the middle of them and start blapping nerds left right and center. I'd have to ask a White Knight, but I suspect that actually hunting us and killing us would be more entertaining than sitting on gates in logi boats wondering if we're actually going to gank this freighter that's being bumped or if, once again, it's a distraction and our actual target is in different system.

I don't think I can agree with nerfing Concord, not without serious changes to High Sec that I don't see happening for a very long time. I think nerfing Concord and putting more power in the hands of players would be an amazing change for Eve, but I don't think the game is ready for that right now, it would currently only break the game.

Now THAT is a fascinating idea. Keep the UUN (Unescapable, Untankable NPCs) nature of CONCORD, but delay their response times slightly where an Incursion is active. Fits the lore, adds some additional risk to balance the obscene income potential, and never impacts any one region of hisec for very long.

I like it. Have the additional delay start off at some base amount (10%? 15%? 20%? I think more than that would be excessive) and then decrease linearly as Sansha control decreases, until it is zero when Sansha influence is minimum.

Imagine Amarr and Jita when incursions hit The Throne Worlds and Kimotoro....

That's because response times were buffed some years back, probably because of carebear complaints. +1 for reversing that, at least partially, in incursion systems.

Baby steps. I want to get elected to the CSM, not run out of New Eden by the Incursion Running community.


Although, thinking about it, coupling this with removing FacPo may be a White Knight's dream. Incursion gates would make a great choke point for a bunch of flashy battleships to get ganked by WKs.

That was meant as mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm aware of just how much support I can realistically expect from hisec PvE communities.

Faction Police and Faction Navies are two different things. The former respond to criminals, the latter respond to "enemies of the empire" based on your standings/FW status.

THIS

That would be awesome fun. It'd be even more fun if the whinebears put down their pitchforks and undocked to do something about it. After all, they outnumber us by tens of thousands.