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[BOND] The 5/5/5 Plan.

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Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#1 - 2015-09-08 18:23:11 UTC
Dethmourne Silvermane presents:
ISK Wars Episode V: The ISK Strikes Back


Part 1: Background/Synopsis (aka storytime)

Many of you know that I have run a number of prior bonds on this forum and via private investment. I've since taken a "brief" sabbatical from trading that has ultimately led to longer sabbaticals, etc, consisting primarily of skill queue online. I burned down to about 500m liquid and started trading again on my trade alt. I'm up to about 1.3B again, but I'm frustrated with the "ISK wall" I'm running into where I have sufficient market space and market orders (alt has Tycoon V) to expand significantly, but lack the liquidity. This is where this new bond comes into play. The details are below, but the tl;dr version is as follows:

tl;dr - 5b bond. 5%/month interest, paid monthly on 15th of each month (first payment in October). 5 months duration.

Part 2: Long version please

Step 1: Gameplan - how am I going to take your money and make it into more money, enough to pay you back with interest?


This piece is simple - I'm station trading in a popular market hub. I've been doing this for a little less than a week this time (moved away from intra-regional trading because it's godawfully slow if you don't have just GOBS of money and orders to stake positions in tons of high-margin items) and it's just as profitable as I recall it being. I'm using Evernus (thanks, Hel O'Ween, for the suggestion!) to help track margins and make updating orders a relatively painless affair. I've made about 300m in the last week or so; could get more exact numbers when I get home tonight if needed, but the important piece here is that I'm already confident (from prior experience, combined with recent verification of profitability) that this will meet my needs in terms of allowing for repayment.

Step 2: Risk avoidance - how am I going to avoid losing your money?


This has a few things.

1) I'm going to be station trading - nothing leaves dock, so nothing can get blown up.
2) I'm using short duration buy orders so that if for whatever reason I'm unable to update orders for a few days, they expire rather than remain maladjusted to market conditions.
3) I'm holding onto a backup L4 mission boat - in the absolute worst case on the trading side of things, I can turn to a not-worth-ganking L4 mission boat stored in high-security space to grind the money back.

Prior history has had me going so far as to pawn Dethmourne (my main, and the character I identify with in multiple out-of-game venues such as Twitter and Slack as well as in-game) in order to repay debtors, rather than leave the debt unpaid.

Step 3: Terms and Conditions - Where do I send my money and how do I get it back?


All ISK will be sent to my trade alt, The Real Dethmourne, currently in Mare Crisium Industries [WOONA] in Test Alliance Please Ignore (I myself will be rejoining Test Alliance Please Ignore in the relatively short term, but am currently making arrangements to ensure that in the case of total market failure I can still safely utilize highsec as described above to grind ISK via missioning).

ISK can be invested in blocks of 100m. Please reserve your investment in this thread if interested. Please do not send ISK until I have confirmed the 5b block of investors, so I don't have to refund ISK to investors who did not make the 5b cutoff.

Principal is due by the 15th of September, and interest payments will be started on or before the 15th of October in the amount of 5% of principal invested. Each month until principal is repaid, interest will recur with a due date of the 15th of that month. Principal will be repaid along with final interest payment on or before 15th February, 2016.

Principal is expected to remain with bond issuer (myself) until repayment of principal in full occurs for all investors; however, arrangements can be made to repay all or part (in 100m blocks) of an investor's principal. Early repayment calls from an investor will forfeit that month's interest repayment for the portion of principal recalled.

Interested Party (TM)

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#2 - 2015-09-08 18:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dethmourne Silvermane
Reserved for update with investor list / Q&A.

Investor List:
goodlady Smith - 1b
Jax Kazen - 2b
Dran Arcana - 2b

Question 1 (came up in Tweetfleet Slack) - Is this bond collateralized?

Answer: No. If you're looking only for loans backed by hard assets held by Chribba or a similar trusted third-party entity, this is not the investment for you. I've discussed this in other threads on this forum, but it's my opinion that it is rarely beneficial to the borrower to collateralize loans rather than selling the hard asset that would otherwise be used as a collateral (exceptions do exist).

Interested Party (TM)

goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#3 - 2015-09-08 19:16:59 UTC
In for 1B -
*Crosses fingers*

Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums WTS... Smiles

Jax Kazen
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-09-08 19:44:04 UTC
I'm in for 2B - will transfer when I am in game later tonight
Dran Arcana
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2015-09-08 20:28:23 UTC
2
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#6 - 2015-09-08 20:30:45 UTC
Bond is full - I've asked Dran Arcana (who contacted me via TEST forums) to post here confirming his investment.

I'll be happy to take money prior to the 15th, but it is not due until then and I will not be prorating interest for any additional time it's provided to me, for simplicity of bookkeeping. Thank you for your investments and I look forward to spinning your gold into more gold :)

Interested Party (TM)

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#7 - 2015-09-08 20:31:33 UTC
Dran Arcana wrote:
2


Bastard, you beat me to my reply saying you would be confirming :P

Interested Party (TM)

Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-09-08 21:10:16 UTC
Herman Cain plays eve!
RAW23
#9 - 2015-09-09 01:50:11 UTC
Welcome back Deth!

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#10 - 2015-09-09 03:04:16 UTC
Welcome back Dethmourne and good luck!
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#11 - 2015-09-09 04:31:09 UTC
Thanks. I've actually been back in game for a while, but have been relatively carefully avoiding my personal heroin (numbers going up in station trading). It's just too damn efficient compared to any other income source, though. This time I'm setting solid sunset dates for any bonds to prevent the burnout that happened last time (hence the set 5-month end date on this one).

Interested Party (TM)

goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#12 - 2015-09-09 19:13:46 UTC
1B Sent to The Real Dethmourne

Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums WTS... Smiles

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#13 - 2015-09-10 01:00:05 UTC
goodlady Smith wrote:
1B Sent to The Real Dethmourne


Verified.

Interested Party (TM)

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#14 - 2015-09-12 23:04:32 UTC
2b received from Dran Arcana, so just the 2b from Jax Kazen left to receive.

Interested Party (TM)

Jax Kazen
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-09-14 23:53:42 UTC
Sorry - was having some hard drive issues - 2B sent
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#16 - 2015-09-15 15:38:41 UTC
Jax Kazen wrote:
Sorry - was having some hard drive issues - 2B sent


Confirmed. That's the whole 5b filled :)

As an aside, the character "The Real Dethmourne" has been removed from TEST as I want a little more freedom of movement in highsec for other (non-bond) activities than TEST wardecs allow.

Interested Party (TM)

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#17 - 2015-10-12 12:00:07 UTC
October interest paid out a little early.

Interested Party (TM)

goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#18 - 2015-10-12 22:59:27 UTC
50M recieved

Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums WTS... Smiles

Jax Kazen
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-10-14 02:55:38 UTC
Interest Received
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#20 - 2016-01-09 18:54:22 UTC
November was paid on time.

Just paid out December+January, plus a little extra as an apology for missing December. My December was... insane.

I might go ahead and pay out feb+principal later today. If I do, you'll see the returns in your wallets shortly.

Interested Party (TM)

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