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Do EvE Online players cyberbully CCP?
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Marsha Mallow
#1 - 2015-09-08 20:39:23 UTC
Serious question.

No kicking, biting, gouging please. Keep it classy scrubs P

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-09-08 20:41:36 UTC
Gimme yo lunch money.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#3 - 2015-09-08 20:46:46 UTC
In general I'd say no, but I'm sure there are plenty of specific examples where a good case could be made for yes. I tend to avoid those discussions as it just starts to sound like rabble rabble rabble after a few posts.

I'd say a lot of it is venting that is non constructive because the individual player (and sometimes groups) doesn't see an immediate and easy adaptation, although most of them seem to shut up not too long after release. at least with the new release cycle CCP can make adjustments far quicker than on the 6 month cycle. A lot of it seems to come out as yall suck at your jobs. to which I'm sure most ccp'ers want to say back you suck at the game, but that would just cause a shitstorm.

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Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#4 - 2015-09-08 20:49:56 UTC
No. When they do, they just get permabanned, like Ginger Magician.

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Salvos Rhoska
#5 - 2015-09-08 20:56:35 UTC
Less fraternizing with the peasants, please.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#6 - 2015-09-08 21:04:57 UTC
Yes, but they only do it because CCP mercilessly provokes the playerbase with screenshots of this, whispers of rumours of that...and does a complete about-face a week later.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Marsha Mallow
#7 - 2015-09-08 21:18:04 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
In general I'd say no, but I'm sure there are plenty of specific examples where a good case could be made for yes. I tend to avoid those discussions as it just starts to sound like rabble rabble rabble after a few posts.

I must admit I read some of the rabble rousing and attempts to gather up support and wonder if it's an attempt to negotiate that just slides out of control. Doesn't help that we bludgeoned CCP (successfully) over Incarna by throwing an epic tantrum. Although I was always impressed that they listened and made such an abrupt u-turn, it set a precedent for player demands/protests. It feels like we don't manage player protests in a constructive way, if that makes sense.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Arla Sarain
#8 - 2015-09-08 21:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Arla Sarain
Whining about changes, loudly at that, has become a common political tool players use in a VERY BROAD range of games, not just EVE.

Check the forums for CoD, Destiny, private/emulated MMO servers. More enterprises are willing to get on the videogame entertainment bandwagon, without actually having any experience in the field and are directly caving into the players biased demands, further empowering them and destabilizing the perspective of the developers.

That's not to say players are wrong. It's just discussions are rarely objective and critical, rarely discussions all together, which narrows the perspective and scope of the problem(s).

It's a cultural paradigm that can be seen in many walks of life. Players are becoming the job level project managers of the video game industry, by screaming loudly "I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO YOUR JOB, BUT MY INEXPERIENCED GUT FEELING IS TELLING ME YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!"

(c) FozzieSov. How many people supported that before it came out? And how many more cried against it when it was released?
INB4 "we didn't know it was going to be released in that way bla bla bla"
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-09-08 22:08:05 UTC
Arla Sarain wrote:
Whining about changes, loudly at that, has become a common political tool players use in a VERY BROAD range of games, not just EVE.

Check the forums for CoD, Destiny, private/emulated MMO servers. More enterprises are willing to get on the videogame entertainment bandwagon, without actually having any experience in the field and are directly caving into the players biased demands, further empowering them and destabilizing the perspective of the developers.

That's not to say players are wrong. It's just discussions are rarely objective and critical, rarely discussions all together, which narrows the perspective and scope of the problem(s).

It's a cultural paradigm that can be seen in many walks of life. Players are becoming the job level project managers of the video game industry, by screaming loudly "I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO YOUR JOB, BUT MY INEXPERIENCED GUT FEELING IS TELLING ME YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!"

(c) FozzieSov. How many people supported that before it came out? And how many more cried against it when it was released?
INB4 "we didn't know it was going to be released in that way bla bla bla"



B-B-BUT FOZZIE SOV WAS SUPPOSED TO KILL THE GOONS/CFC/IMPERIUM AND EMPOWER DA SMALL GUYS WHY ISN'T IT HAPPENING CCP!!?!?!?!?!

WE NEED MORE STUFF TO EMPOWER THE SMALL GUYS CCP!!!!!

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2015-09-08 22:23:47 UTC
I think i crossed the line once when I called Fozzie a 'gang of squirrels in a man costume who infiltrated CCP because they heard that the staff was nuts'.. and I did insinuate that Fozzie liked to sneak bites from his co-workers taco platters during company sponsored dinners... Oh! and i did try to coin the celebrity couple name Rozzie back when it was the Fozzie and Rise show during the rebalancing initiative start... i think i accused Falcon of making bad dad puns at least 4 times... and I did turn in that FOIA request due to the utter iron curtain of information surrounding CCP NakedMan... also.. pretty sure on more than one occasion said I was going to hang CCP Eterne over a pit filled with ill tempered sea bass while i monologued about my nefarious plans...


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#11 - 2015-09-08 22:35:35 UTC
EVE Online players are a bunch of whiny jerkbabies. If I was CCP I would shut down the game out of spite.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-09-08 22:48:49 UTC
yes.

forums.  serious business.
Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-09-08 23:24:52 UTC
posting in an "unban stunt flores" thread Cool
Arec Bardwin
#14 - 2015-09-09 00:17:39 UTC
Ultim8Evil wrote:
No. When they do, they just get permabanned, like Ginger Magician.
Or Kugutsumen P
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#15 - 2015-09-09 00:24:30 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I think i crossed the line once when I called Fozzie a 'gang of squirrels in a man costume who infiltrated CCP because they heard that the staff was nuts'.. and I did insinuate that Fozzie liked to sneak bites from his co-workers taco platters during company sponsored dinners... Oh! and i did try to coin the celebrity couple name Rozzie back when it was the Fozzie and Rise show during the rebalancing initiative start... i think i accused Falcon of making bad dad puns at least 4 times... and I did turn in that FOIA request due to the utter iron curtain of information surrounding CCP NakedMan... also.. pretty sure on more than one occasion said I was going to hang CCP Eterne over a pit filled with ill tempered sea bass while i monologued about my nefarious plans...




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Candi LeMew
Division 13
#16 - 2015-09-09 01:52:34 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Gimme yo lunch money.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#17 - 2015-09-09 02:03:09 UTC
Make EVE into a WoW clone now or else I'm crying EVE is Dying™ day after day after day until you lose your jobs and are homeless on the streets!

cyberbullying? naaaaaah don't be silly, must have an IQ greater than celery to do that Pirate

I'm in it for the money

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#18 - 2015-09-09 02:36:14 UTC
Your voice will be heard when you cancel your sub.
Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#19 - 2015-09-09 02:38:10 UTC
Brian Harrelstein wrote:
posting in an "unban stunt flores" thread Cool


Can I quote you and edit it in MS Paint?

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T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2015-09-09 03:36:58 UTC
Yes. Now scram, runt.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
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