Wormholes

Looking for a bit of info/advice.
I've moved into a wh with a c3 static with the plan of running the static anoms for isk making.
Every time I've ran sites (only twice) a fleet of atleast 10 ships has appeared hunting me within 40 mins.

I was under the impression that wh space would be quieter and therefore I'd be interrupted less often.
Are lower class wormholes really this active? Is it just the fact c3s are highways? Or am I just unlucky? Also is there a large variation in tz coverage so I should run sites at earlier hours.

Ty for any input, just want to build myself a clearer picture.

Both times they've been completely dead whs, with 1 dead stick. I haven't been scanning down the sigs as if the wh is dead I don't want to pop the connections.

To be honest I wouldn't let that stop you, more often than not you'll find every connection's already been popped.

Low class systems do tend to have quite a bit of traffic, really depends on what your static(s) are. But in general, yeah you're going to have people passing through quite a bit. You've ran sites twice and had someone hunt you both times, with only that to go on it's kinda hard to tell if you're doing something wrong or just got unlucky. Try twenty times and see if you keep getting jumped, that might give you more of an idea if you're doing something wrong. For instance, for all you know you may have been running sites in a hole that's right next door to major pvp corporations both times and you wouldn't have known as you didn't scout the connections.

Situational awareness is key, scanning down as much of your chain as you can, seeing which holes have active pilots sitting around at their POS, if those corporations present a threat and (best thing ever for safety) keeping alts cloaked on the connections into the system while you're farming it, listening for wormhole activations so you can get out of site before the bad things come.

Ty for the info, you're the lovely person that scouted me into a c13 shattered a few months back :)
I'm thinking it might be worth the time scanning and closing every connection then running everything in higher dps ships maybe?

Ex-C3-Runner reporting in :)

Try to prefer C3s with static low-sec, the traffic is a lot lower, static 00 has close to 0 traffic (most of the time).
If you have 2 toons to roll WHs, i recommend to check the targetsystems + 1 level deeper and then quickly roll most connections with 2 higgsfitted BS (total~ 400mil investment), most WHs will only need 2 max 3 passes.
After that as long as no new sig pops up or somebody comes from your own wh you can run sites pretty safe

As perfect cheap farming setup i recommend 3 rr-myrmidons, the entire "fleet" repaid itself after less than 10 sites (without insurance), if you want fits just poke me ingame :)

However, low-class wormholes are only having more traffic, because everybody uses them as accespoint/highway to kspace, the higher classes are deserts/carebear wonderland.

Allways keep an eye on dscan + stay aligned to somewhere and you are fine :)

3 myrms are cheaper than 2 domis and wreck a c3 site in 4 minutes 30 seconds :/

So what you're doing is running sites in a random system, without scanning it, with no idea what it's connected to and you're asking why you're getting ganked?

Yeah, see, this is EXACTLY why I tell people to join an existing wh Corp if they have no idea what they're doing.

You are gonna keep getting ganked if you continue to refuse to scan/scout. The fact is that low-class WH space is much more actively patrolled by explorers than you seem to realize. As such, most of those connections are spawned long before you roll into the system. Furthermore, if you're connected within a jump or two of an active group that likes to kill ratters, they will notice and attack you. Thinking that you can do several anoms without anyone noticing is incredibly naive, especially given how laughably easy it is to find someone in an anomaly.

Jack is right, you would be well served to join up with some more experienced pilots since you seem to have some relatively basic knowledge, but you're making major mistakes from a lack of practical experience.

To your questions:

C1-3 space is quite active, both from people that live/have statics there and from day-trippers. I see much more activity in those holes than other parts of WH space. They are more connected to both WH space and K space, as a general rule.

It's not that you're unlucky, it sounds more like you're lacking basic security skills. Scanning down chains and posting scouts is WH 101, and without it you're gonna keep getting ganked.

As for TZ coverage, generally you'll see more activity early to mid timezones. Doing your ratting in the later part of a TZ can sometimes be good as people tend to scan their chains and then not necessarily patrol up and down them later. If the C3 goes to hisec though, this is irrelevant.

The biggest thing is that you're not checking next door. Just because a WH is empty doesn't mean that next door is. Start checking 1-2 jumps down the chain and you'll save yourself.

Also, scan down your ratting system and consider running signatures instead of anoms. This way you'll have an extra layer of defense from attackers since they'd have to drop drones to get to you and this gives you time to warp out. Another incentive to scan.

Well thanks guys that's exactly the info I was after. I'll have to focus on better chain security etc and will spend more time collapsing holes and then post an alt on the static.

As for joining a wh corp, after 10 years of eve and getting pretty good at the rest of the game I'm actually kinda excited to be learning again. I think I'll just suck up a loss or 2 and learn from it (and ask in here :) )

Thanks all again.

you need to isolate your wh system from the magical carousel of static and dynamic wh's. you can do this (everyday) by scanning the new sigs right after Down Time, or when ever you are active for the day: scout each of the wh's connecting to your system and if all is quite, collapse the wh's connecting to your home hole, or the static in which you are seeking to farm from.

quickly collapse wh's with higgs orca and higgs megathron. You can use two characters one for each ship. this will reduce the time you need wait for the wh to collapse.

home hole should always have connecting whs closed. even putting the statics into verge of collapse is helpful. (I prefer to collapse)
(when you scan the new statics, be careful to just warp to them and bkmk them, I think if you jump into them, that is what creates the sig on the other side... thus you have been detected (potentially). Im not sure if this has been debated or if its accurate. i tend to collapse all whs, and leave the new static sigs in the window till im done with the sites. then i scan them down.

once you have system control (lol) and all connections are closed, you can move to the static. and use alt scouts watching d scan and drop probes, let known there is a force in there, and bring in a mega, or if its a 3 bil kg wh, bring the orca and rapier for webbs, to assist the orca off grid quickly. (for example) I would not recommend this unless you have been watching that system for a majority of the wh's life and it was absolutely quite. special fits can be used to help you get in and out, but if you dont have scouts up and there are bubbles and they are watching you... then you are doing it wrong. you need to be in the power chair, the seat of surprise. in other words, you need be be three steps ahead of everyone else around you.

get in and get out... if the system has a lot of sigs, roll it... if there are not 12 or more anoms to farm, roll it... or find a number that is comfortable for you and your assets you are risking. I tend to roll with 12 or so anoms at least.

watch d scan every ten seconds... hit that freakin button. you can always catch a cov ops when he cloaks... :) you have like 3 seconds, maybe 5...

bubble the whs you cannot collapse, and get pvp cov ops cruisers sitting or orbiting 4,500m/30km off the wh listening, while you alt tab to run sites... this is an early warning to inbound ships

if the hostiles are in the system before you, then well, find another static, roll it for an empty system. I love finding wh systems with over 15 anoms. best of luck.