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90day market mechanism & RSI, auto refresh 90 days with sell or buy
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corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-09-02 06:28:46 UTC
i just finished updating 400 + orders, and my wrist hurts. i update them +0.01 not to be the highest bidder or lowest seller but so the stack stays on market. (and yes i know i can use the scroll button)

to avoid rsi and pointless hours change it so:

- If you have a sale/buy of your order (sell or buy) it auto updates too 90 days again. if issues then add a check box, where you can uncheck the refresh 90 days with sale/buy.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#2 - 2015-09-02 06:49:00 UTC
I think there need to be some provisions to this, such as
Not updating orders for characters that are unsubbed at the renewal time
Not updating orders for characters who haven't logged in for 90 days
Not updating orders for regions your character isn't located in
Not updating orders if your character no longer possesses the necessary escrow to cover the order.

No 'long form' market scams, no trial character long form trading, no bypassing the market related skills (which limit by region), no set&forget manipulator accounts that sub for 1 month and then disappear for a year.

Plenty of other things to consider too.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#3 - 2015-09-02 07:14:05 UTC
How about a "reset times" button at the top of the orders screen which only affects order in range of your skills. Unsubbed players would have trouble clicking it.

It does become a pain. Orders you work with all the timer are fine, but when you are just seeding stuff somewhere it's a nightmare to babysit it all.

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#4 - 2015-09-02 13:52:23 UTC
Reset timers button gets a huge +1
corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-09-03 11:21:03 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
How about a "reset times" button at the top of the orders screen which only affects order in range of your skills. Unsubbed players would have trouble clicking it.

It does become a pain. Orders you work with all the timer are fine, but when you are just seeding stuff somewhere it's a nightmare to babysit it all.


yes ofc any mechanism that helps here, its just a royal pain in the ass atm, and mayeb easy to accomodate
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#6 - 2015-09-03 12:58:51 UTC
As someone who updates 1200 orders this way, I completely agree there should be some mechanism to get this working, I would even be willing to pay a tax for keeping them in the market.

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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#7 - 2015-09-03 13:16:57 UTC
I'm in favour of this!
Dextrome Thorphan
#8 - 2015-09-05 16:12:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Dextrome Thorphan
Just do it! (implement this feature that is)
Ben Ishikela
#9 - 2015-09-05 16:43:25 UTC
"How about a "reset times" button(...)?" So much this. oh yeah.

While we are at it: Can we please get rid of the 0.01Isk game?
Solution: when an item is bought, it picks a random sell-order that is within the lowest 1% of all buyorders. (similar with buy orders)
(Detail: if there is only 1 order -> 100%possible. if there is stack of 80 and a stack of 20 being sold, its 20/100 against 80/100. For buyOrders: 1ticket per order (?because maybe harmful exploit?).)
Implication: More focus on real meaning of price. Less manual work. More brain use. Less botting. More profit for smart persons that also have RL.
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corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-09-07 04:39:40 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
As someone who updates 1200 orders this way, I completely agree there should be some mechanism to get this working, I would even be willing to pay a tax for keeping them in the market.


The smoking indeed, if the option would cost like a extra percent or whatever i wouldnt cáre either. Its a royal pain in the butt, aftehr it i usually log off for a break instead of playing for real

Ccp did u see the post is it a option to look into the 90 days, ? Other solutions we ll take as well ofc
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#11 - 2015-09-07 05:17:27 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
As someone who updates 1200 orders this way, I completely agree there should be some mechanism to get this working, I would even be willing to pay a tax for keeping them in the market.


Very good since op is trying to remove an isk sink from the game - the market tax.

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#12 - 2015-09-07 22:11:51 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
As someone who updates 1200 orders this way, I completely agree there should be some mechanism to get this working, I would even be willing to pay a tax for keeping them in the market.


Very good since op is trying to remove an isk sink from the game - the market tax.


Somewhat, atm I keep the orders up to date, I dont replace them.

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-09-07 22:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
All the time i was dreaming about classic timeframes for market orders:

1 day
7 days
30 days
90 days
180 days
360 days

So basically i'm not sure if we would have reset button do we still meed manually through every single order and change the numbers.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2015-09-07 23:12:34 UTC
If we're going to make an auto reset button why bother having a time limit in the first place. Think for a second before you post this non-sense.

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corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-09-08 06:49:46 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
If we're going to make an auto reset button why bother having a time limit in the first place. Think for a second before you post this non-sense.



True, 90 days serve a purpose also most likely so markets dont get to big, or have endless lines too scroll 2 off **** that never sells. For me resetting it with a sale woudl make sense cause it shows your stack is contributing still too eve, asits being used. 90 days of total inactivity, no buys or sales i woudl agree it ends
Anthar Thebess
#16 - 2015-09-08 07:33:20 UTC
First CCP needs to increase cost of 0.01 Isk changes.

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