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The right tackler

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Gladrielle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-09-05 10:05:27 UTC
Ok, for the last week, i ve been wondering what race has the best interceptor for tackling.

The malediction looks promising with its rlml fit, anemic dps but great range and no tracking problem and the speed is good

The ares, i was told is not the ship for tackling, 3 mids arent enough? i dont really understand

The stiletto, has 4 mids can fit active/passive shield fit has great speed, but cant fit any dps to sve itself from even light drones

The raptor is just bad... no speed whatever but great tank
so im in need of some advice, some help to choose one, ill be skilling the others later on.
ARES vs STILETTO VS MALEDICTION WHO WINS? EPIC CEPTOR BATTLE OF HISTORY
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-09-05 11:06:08 UTC
I would like to see this rlml malediction
Gladrielle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-09-05 11:34:22 UTC
[Malediction, RLML Malediction]

Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Warp Disruptor II

Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile

Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-09-05 11:35:54 UTC
those are, unfortunately, not rlmls
Gladrielle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-09-05 12:24:10 UTC
OOPSIE
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-09-05 12:53:08 UTC
Male for armor, stilletto for shield, keres is better then all.
Arla Sarain
#7 - 2015-09-05 12:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Arla Sarain
Ares have whack agility.

If you fly shield fits and only need a point or a scram, Ares are awesome, especially on camps for decloaking.

Ares have one redeeming quality when armor tanked - the racial flavoured resist bonus, leaving you with only an explosive hole. Get a Dark Blood resist plating and you should get a very well rounded and uniform resist profile.

Here is the shield one I use occasionally, switching between scram/point. I believe Chessur or someone from Pizza made a vid which recommended ceptor fits with vamps.

[Ares, Fleet]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ionic Field Projector I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I

Never flew the armor one, but if I had to, I'd use this. On the face of it, armor Ares and Males are very similar. Ares still wins in agility, with a slightly high top speed, even with a Nanofibre instead of OD. Males have slightly higher effective HP/s.

[Ares, Armor]
Dark Blood Explosive Plating
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Warp Disruptor II

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II


All in all, the loss with armor tanked fits is fact that you will likely need to warp off after a couple of rep cycles - the cap on these two ain't that great and losing cap when holding point is tear inducing. You may not put plates on ceptors in which case it wouldn't really matter. Ares loses the low-slot efficiency contest because Males get a uniform profile right of the bat, but is also biased heavily towards armor. Ares gets choices. Males can be fitted to be faster with its resist hole still being relatively well defended.
Gladrielle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-09-05 15:56:46 UTC
what about this one?
[Ares, Ares]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Warp Disruptor II

Light Electron Blaster II
Light Electron Blaster II
Light Electron Blaster II

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#9 - 2015-09-05 16:19:31 UTC
Gladrielle wrote:
what about this one?
[Ares, Ares]

Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Warp Disruptor II

Light Electron Blaster II
Light Electron Blaster II
Light Electron Blaster II

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II


The Ares have alot of structure EHP so you should replace the nano with an overdrive so you don't lose a large amount of your buffer.

Light Electron blasters got ****** range. 75mms railguns may not have the same dps, but they benefit greatly from the optimal range and tracking bonus on the ares which makes them great from clearing drones which is the primary role of your guns anyways.

The malediction has low dps but it is able to project the dps unlike the other interceptors. It can also be quite tanky so it is probably the best armour ceptor.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#10 - 2015-09-05 19:27:07 UTC
chessur has a vid on light tackle. goes over fits at ~17 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yBTaqiMrX4

also I think you want to look at the crow not the raptor. they swapped them a while back.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#11 - 2015-09-05 23:42:19 UTC
I've been flying intis for a while and I've found the stiletto and malediction to be the superior tacklers. I don't fly as a buffer tank, max speed, point, scram fit.

https://youtu.be/CZcqz8jwyZk
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#12 - 2015-09-06 08:26:21 UTC
If you care about "anemic dps" on a tackler, you should not be flying tackle. It's not your business. Like logi with guns.

The right tackler is a fleet inty (those with point range hull bonus) with a long point, a scram, enough lock range to use a heated long point and some means to survive.

My personal favourite is the malediction. It has the right mix of speed, agility and tank.
I fly with the mandatory mwd, point, scram in mids.
DC, AAR, OD and EANM in lows.
T2 poly and T2 ionic rigs.
A probe launcher (scan a lot) and 2 ACs (versus drones) in highs.

Might be a better idea to swap EANM for a nano and one AC for a NOS (can't squeeze the nos with eanm unless you use a faction point), but I like the extra tank and don't like to get into scram range unless necessary.

A dedspace mwd is a very good investment. Mostly for cap reasons, but additional speed is nice too.

An unlinked malediction can survive a full RLML unload (unless from orthrus).
I think a linked malediction can with some careful overheating survive an orthrus.

The good thing about the malediction is, it's tank is mostly in armour, and it can self rep, so it is sustainable in long roams unlike some fits that rely on hull. And it can quickly get back in shape if forced off grid unlike passive shield fits.

The AAR is mostly there for emergency tank or repping up off field. Active tank is not really sustainable when actually tackling. You can get maybe a couple of cycles off, but then cap becomes an issue. This is why dedspace MWD is good - it lets for much more generous AAR usage.

Also don't run AAR non-heated. EVER. And don't overrep.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#13 - 2015-09-06 11:11:30 UTC
Gladrielle wrote:
what about this one?
[Ares, Ares]


I'd really put a NOS on there if you intend to use the scram frequently.

[Crow, Crow]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
Warp Disruptor II

Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
Core Probe Launcher I,Core Scanner Probe I
Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

That's one crow. Absolutely not sure about the warpspeedrigs anymore, crow flies a bit like a stiletto on valium like that.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#14 - 2015-09-06 22:48:33 UTC
Ares, Fleet Tackle:

Lows:
DC
Small Ancil Repper
Adaptive Nano Plating
Overdrive.

Mids:
MWD
Point
*utility* Scram OR Tracking Disruptor

Highs
75mm Rails x3

Rigs:
Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II.

Ares, Inty Fleet:

Lows:
DC
Small Ancil Repper
Adaptive Nano Plating
*utility* Nano Membrane OR Mag Stab (choose tank or gank!)

Mids:
MWD
Point
*utility* Scram OR Tracking Disruptor

Highs
125mm Rails x3 (or Ion Blasters, your call)

Rigs:
Smal Ancil Current Router
Small Transverse Bulkhead II.

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W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-09-07 00:47:55 UTC
either post in the eft format or dont post