EVE General Discussion

Goons already won Eve. so there's no win to pay for

EVE's customer support already suffers greatly. mostly due to some GMs not doing their job properly.

There are quite a few that will only play F2P or B2P. a lot of the F2P crowd will likely be kids. Although as the game is I doubt many of those will stay anyway.

Name one F2P game that isn't completely moronic due to p2W and/or an influx of hilarious shitclowns and full of 12 yearolds.

The people who will multibox already multibox.

I would multibox if I didn't have to pay to keep the extra accounts active.


Weell… There's Cookie Clicker — it's completely moronic due to radically different reasons.

It's amazing how often people seem to think that selling PLEX doesn't make CCP any money. A PLEX is game time. 30 days of it. For a PLEX to exist, someone has had to pay real money to CCP. A PLEX only shows up when somebody pays CCP. They don't get magically created when someone decides to dump ISK into them and buying them does not remove ISK from the game either.

-E- Actually it does remove ISK from the game but so does every market transaction.

actually, most of the ISK goes to a player while a small bit of it goes to a black hole known as broker or whatever.

EVE should have a space fight simulator at NPC stations which lets player just do fights.

Effectively be a virtual battleground in a virtual space environment.

It's how these MOBA started, they were battlegrounds within other games.

And it shows what players really want, balanced PvP, in a structured environment.

Like LoL etc.

EVE could do it by having them as training simulators for pilots, plus it would let players try out different ships without losing them.

More importantly though it would let new players hop right into fighting in space without needing skills or a big pile of ISK.

And perhaps it might stop people asking for making EVE free to play, which from my experience, turns games into crap.

RvB would like a word, they've been doing essentially this for years, without having to use a separate environment.

The whole point of the sandbox is that if you want something such as you suggest, then it is up to you to make it happen, preferably without asking the devs to do it for you.

If that's what people want, why are they playing Eve? What you're suggesting is no risk, no loss PvP, something that is diametrically opposed to the whole ethos and premise of Eve.

There are numerous games that offer that type of gameplay, this is not one of them, nor should it be.

SP and isk aren't the primary barrier that newbies face; a few hours training gives a newbie combat effectiveness in terms of what modules they can use, the career agents hand out enough isk to fund several frigates and destroyers to destroy in the pursuit of knowledge. Their primary barrier is lack of knowledge about the game and its mechanics, that comes with experience and by learning from others, Eve is very much a social game in that respect.

Agreed F2P does turn games into crap, I don't think you'll find many dissenters tbh.