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Dev blog: Designer SKINs to please your eyes

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#101 - 2015-09-06 10:37:29 UTC
You know... I think CCP has open a can of worms.

The positive impact of "my ship got a new SKIN!" is struggling with the negative impact of "guess what, still no bloody SKIN for my ship".

I've 6900 AUR ready to buy a SKIN... if I ever find one that:

a) I like it
b) is available for the race ships I fly
c) actually is avalable for exactly the ship I'd like to see in that SKIN (clue: I fly T2, so...)

I wonder if SKINs are being developed based on ship popularity. The fact that the Golem (the 3rd ship more popular in the game, IIRC) hasn't got any SKIN makes me wonder this.

And that's no little can of worms, with some 500 ship types, each with a SKIN to be tested for each range of SKINs... just to end up pissing everyone not gifted with a SKIN, and also turning the NES catalogue into a nightmare to browse with essentially hundreds of unusable ship SKINs for each one a player may actually use. Sooner or later, a search by name function should be added to the NES.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
flaming phantom
Unlimited LTD
#102 - 2015-09-06 11:11:56 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
You know... I think CCP has open a can of worms.
I wonder if SKINs are being developed based on ship popularity. The fact that the Golem (the 3rd ship more popular in the game, IIRC) hasn't got any SKIN makes me wonder this.

And that's no little can of worms, with some 500 ship types, each with a SKIN to be tested for each range of SKINs... just to end up pissing everyone not gifted with a SKIN, and also turning the NES catalogue into a nightmare to browse with essentially hundreds of unusable ship SKINs for each one a player may actually use. Sooner or later, a search by name function should be added to the NES.



Have you used the NES? There is a search function in the top-right, and if you type in "Golem", you will find that there is in fact already 2 skins for it

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#103 - 2015-09-06 13:55:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
flaming phantom wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
You know... I think CCP has open a can of worms.
I wonder if SKINs are being developed based on ship popularity. The fact that the Golem (the 3rd ship more popular in the game, IIRC) hasn't got any SKIN makes me wonder this.

And that's no little can of worms, with some 500 ship types, each with a SKIN to be tested for each range of SKINs... just to end up pissing everyone not gifted with a SKIN, and also turning the NES catalogue into a nightmare to browse with essentially hundreds of unusable ship SKINs for each one a player may actually use. Sooner or later, a search by name function should be added to the NES.



Have you used the NES? There is a search function in the top-right, and if you type in "Golem", you will find that there is in fact already 2 skins for it


Ok, now I eat my hat. There are two skins for Golem and there's a search function which had gone unnoticed... Oops

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Panther X
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#104 - 2015-09-10 02:10:24 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
Aebe Amraen wrote:
Any word on price?

If you price these higher than the normal skins because they're "designer" you'll just be screwing Caldari and Minmatar over again. Please don't do it.

These will fall roughly in the middle of our existing price ranges, none of these will be more expensive than what is out there already.


LIES


Destoya wrote:
No love for the Gallente eh?

Not yet, but at some point yes :)


Viktor Corgo wrote:
"Available on _race_ hulls"
Just to be clear -- are these SKINs one-ship skins? That is, are we still buying Valklear Glory Typhoon SKIN, Valklear Glory Rifter SKIN, etc, or are we buying a Valklear Glory SKIN that happens to work on Minmatar hulls in general?


The system has not changed, these are all one-ship SKINs.



I'm sorry guys. They are pretty sure, but come on...6400 aur for the wyvern? Please that is outrageous.

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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#105 - 2015-09-10 06:11:48 UTC
Panther X wrote:
I'm sorry guys. They are pretty sure, but come on...6400 aur for the wyvern? Please that is outrageous.

CCP Terminus wrote:
Frigate skins used to be cheaper than skins for larger ships, because they were expected to be lost more often, as the old skins were only good for a single ship. This is no longer the case, so why would we "tax" larger ships by making their SKINs cost more simply because the ship is bigger.

Yup, makes sense.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
marly cortez
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2015-09-15 18:21:13 UTC
Hmmm for a Company that's struggling financially, One wonders why they are diverting scant resources to this rather petty add on which brings them little and probably no financial return at all.

Humanity is the thin veneer that remains after you remove the baffled chimp.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2015-09-15 21:36:21 UTC
marly cortez wrote:
Hmmm for a Company that's struggling financially, One wonders why they are diverting scant resources to this rather petty add on which brings them little and probably no financial return at all.

Because the resources are trivial compared to the potential return maybe?
Hammerlock
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#108 - 2015-09-16 06:43:44 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
marly cortez wrote:
Hmmm for a Company that's struggling financially, One wonders why they are diverting scant resources to this rather petty add on which brings them little and probably no financial return at all.

Because the resources are trivial compared to the potential return maybe?


The have the base skins and recolor them and can do this as a batch process so it is very easy to do and not worth buying you zoom out the play game and I turned of the skin first thing.

I will never buy a skin for a ship even my super, so I am not the customer.

To Marly's point the question remains Why would you waste 1 second do this work because it still has to be tested, deployed seems like a waste of resources when so many other things need to be done to the game.

The wise old man said, never open a lemonade stand when its 20 below zero, build a fire and charge people to stand near it.

CCP needs to think about what they are selling, who they are selling it to, and what is going on with the customers of the game that have supported them for 12 years while they have burned all the money we gave into content we dont care about or on games we will never play like World of Darkness.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2015-09-20 21:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Hammerlock wrote:
The have the base skins and recolor them and can do this as a batch process so it is very easy to do and not worth buying you zoom out the play game and I turned of the skin first thing.

I will never buy a skin for a ship even my super, so I am not the customer.

To Marly's point the question remains Why would you waste 1 second do this work because it still has to be tested, deployed seems like a waste of resources when so many other things need to be done to the game.

The wise old man said, never open a lemonade stand when its 20 below zero, build a fire and charge people to stand near it.

CCP needs to think about what they are selling, who they are selling it to, and what is going on with the customers of the game that have supported them for 12 years while they have burned all the money we gave into content we dont care about or on games we will never play like World of Darkness.
Maybe you should think about this yourself. Skins have had the enthusiasm and patronage of a great many, as evidenced in this and other threads and in space (zoom in and you'll likely see it from time to time), largely because your single use case doesn't and hasn't universally applied.

There is no "we don't care about" when "we" are the reason the feature got further iterated after the pilot program to determine interest. That you personally would never buy them does not and will not ever mean they were a waste of time or universally undesired.

The point still stands, if the investment generates a return there is no reason not to do it, especially when "we" asked for it and demonstrated willingness to pay for it.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#110 - 2015-09-21 10:09:32 UTC
and all of them make my eyes bleed.

well, at least the one I didn't lose yet.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#111 - 2015-09-22 18:38:41 UTC
marly cortez wrote:
Hmmm for a Company that's struggling financially, One wonders why they are diverting scant resources to this rather petty add on which brings them little and probably no financial return at all.


Except that if you've been paying attention, the work on SKINs has helped the art department shake out a great many bugs in textures and geometry, and also in their new engine.

For a game which has prided itself on its appearance from day one ("Those shots are rendered!" "No, they're not.") it's a solid investment of time. I'm sure the revenue isn't bad. People love to customize "their" things.

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Panther X
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#112 - 2015-09-22 20:33:43 UTC
Any word as to why the NES is "Currently Unavailable" everytime I want to log in and spend mah auries?
I mean if you don't want me to spend them I won't but damn that is pretty freakin annoying

My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
Pic'n dor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2015-09-26 20:22:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Pic'n dor
Can we expect some more police skin ?
I'd love to see gank in police talos :
https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/ccpwgl/skindevblog/index.shtml?dna=gbc3_t1:police:gallente&distance=1700



Panther X wrote:
Any word as to why the NES is "Currently Unavailable" everytime I want to log in and spend mah auries?
I mean if you don't want me to spend them I won't but damn that is pretty freakin annoying

tried log with the luncher ?

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Edolus
Steel Works
#114 - 2015-11-19 17:37:04 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
With the Galatea update on August 25 we will see a new type of ship SKINs: less bound to traditional factional color schemes, the new designer SKINs can be more daring and bold. The new 'Raata Sunset' SKIN line for Caldari hulls can color your ship fiercely red with elegant stripes of silver-white.

More designer SKINs are already waiting: the blue-golden 'Blue Tiger' for Minmatar and Caldari hulls as well as the 'Valklear Glory' design for Minmatar ships.

Check out CCP Legion's latest blog Designer SKINs to please your eyes for a beautiful preview of our first designer ship SKINs.



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