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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#41 - 2015-08-24 00:35:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 36 (5 Hours)


Today I did a more complex path follow going around the Venture ship and then inside, up the stairs and then towards the window. I ran into a couple problems where the camera got hung up and sits there for a second before moving again, but that was probably me when making the spline.

I made it a little better by key-framing it manually in places to make it push past those parts, but you will see it still.


*** Video Today ***

https://youtu.be/mTnptVwXfng


Well that was fun skipping ahead in the project this weekend. I almost have a fully rigged character with materials now and learned a couple things about camera control.

I will be back to modeling the market tomorrow and I now want to make some videos just panning around or walkthroughs of some of the more completed areas of the Citadel. Just to get some more practice with that.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#42 - 2015-08-25 02:51:45 UTC
Day 37 (4 1/2 Hours)


Today I am back to doing more modeling in the marketplace. I made some more names up on two more floors and just need to do one more floor and add colors.

http://i60.tinypic.com/15xl8c7.jpg



I made up the bar area, where the strippers hang out. Still thinking of ideas in here. I'm thinking V.I.P. Booths.

http://i58.tinypic.com/15dxw2h.jpg (A Sign and Stripper Poles)
http://i58.tinypic.com/2mgw9jm.jpg (A 150" TV on the wall and Stripper Poles :)
http://i59.tinypic.com/2m5f5z5.jpg (Everything in one shot)
http://i61.tinypic.com/r02ikw.jpg (Bottom Floor looking up almost to the top floor)



I had an idea, tomorrow I am going to trash my containers on the outside, right side of the Citadel. I thought of something better.

I also have been debating on trashing the Citadel Structure (The way it looks from outside), but I am going to wait till I try this new storage idea. Then I will see if it would be better with a different shape.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#43 - 2015-08-26 01:28:08 UTC
Day 38 (8 hours work and 10 hours of rendering a video)


After I posted yesterday I make a walkthrough of my marketplace as it stands now. I will redo it even better when it is complete, but a lot better than the last time with a path follow.

I made this video only using keyframes on the camera.

https://youtu.be/CSulywwoJrA


I removed the Cargo Containers from the right side of the Citadel.

This is my new concept and I like it a lot better. Now I'm am going to remove the center base at some point to fit with the style of the other stuff

http://i59.tinypic.com/2ebd6o3.jpg (Before)

http://i59.tinypic.com/2vi2kw2.jpg (NOW Front)
http://i58.tinypic.com/ogid76.jpg (NOW Side)



I also did one small change of shaping on the outside hanger. More later as I come up with ideas.

http://i58.tinypic.com/1zbwdid.jpg (Before)

http://i62.tinypic.com/wbdi0y.jpg (Now)



*** JUST FOR FUN, I PARKED A TITAN ***

http://i57.tinypic.com/x3el5i.jpg
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#44 - 2015-08-26 07:49:26 UTC
Just a quick update with adding a video for the best images to date section on Day 1.

Video can be found here.

https://youtu.be/wWYTVWIYYfA



I have done some big changes for tomorrows posting since I posted earlier.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#45 - 2015-08-26 20:56:29 UTC
Day 39 (10 Hours)


OK, this might get long. I have a lot of big changes to post today. I just made this project stupid big.

Let's start with how my Citadel looked before. (Keep a eye on the Venture and center part of Citadel for size reference in the changes.)

http://i58.tinypic.com/2nuq72s.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2v0ib09.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/20tpf81.jpg


Since I made the change in storage containers yesterday. I have made my hanger and storage area huge with the new center base coming soon.

*** Since everything is larger now. I have made the guns controllable and mountable. I changed the color of the hanger as well.

http://i62.tinypic.com/dmppao.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/2yyb7gj.jpg


*** My new storage / Docking area.

http://i57.tinypic.com/10ejads.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/2ch53js.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/29o1qn6.jpg (Docked to the weapons here as well)


*** Just for fun, here are 3 Titans docked now.

http://i62.tinypic.com/xpwupd.jpg (Find the Venture ship in here)
http://i59.tinypic.com/ief9js.jpg


*** I'll post this one too, just because the Venture and the center base are in the same shot. The Venture is so small now compared to everything else, as it should be.

http://i62.tinypic.com/33z6yz5.jpg


Now I am going to sit back and think of ideas for the right hands side. Then I have to get ideas for reconstructing the center part, but I will NOT be scrapping the inside of the center base, so all that work I did inside will still be apart of the new structure.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#46 - 2015-08-27 17:31:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 40 (2 Hours)


Just a quick video on my character which I made some changes and more to do still.

(Edited) OK. Now I'm home and not rushing out the door, I can talk. I made this updated video on my character, since I'm still debating on how to tackle the center of my Citadel.

I had a really good idea when I went to sleep last night, but I am going to be very busy until Sunday afternoon and this actually might be the last post till Sunday or Monday Night.

If your new, get caught up on what I'm doing and to everyone, have a great weekend.


https://youtu.be/hs3NDa5MpM4
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#47 - 2015-08-28 05:43:44 UTC
Day 40.5 (1 Hour)


Alright one more post before I am gone for the weekend. I have no time to start modeling, but I did take a couple shots of my new character sitting on her couch watching TV.

For a 360 degree view of her, check the posting before this for the link or on the day 1 post on page one (Destiny version 2).


http://i61.tinypic.com/2hfmb2e.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/23ix7o6.jpg


OK, that's it. Have a good weekend.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#48 - 2015-09-01 04:27:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 41 (1 1/2 Hours)


Hope everyone had a great weekend. I am going to try to get some stuff done this week on this project, but I am very busy due to picking up a new project and will be busy for most of the week.

I started to build my new center part of the structure. I am starting from the top this time and doing the main command deck and then work my way down. I have come to realize that I might be able to save some things I built, but I will have to rebuild all my rooms over again since it was all one object and not separate from the base.

That's cool with me because this thing is going to be BIGGER, BADDER and SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS looking.


*** The start of my command center

http://i57.tinypic.com/2w1t921.jpg (I left my old center base to see how puny it was to what will replace it.)


*** I placed an unrigged character for size reference, so I did not have to lag my scene. I do have another floor below. I just have not opened it up yet, till I know what I'm doing.

http://i62.tinypic.com/qqtxm9.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/zoojb.jpg (I colored my character Red so you have a chance to see her in here, I'm backed against the wall)


*** And here is the new over all look so far of the Citadel.

http://i62.tinypic.com/5ajrj5.jpg
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#49 - 2015-09-01 05:22:38 UTC
Add-on From Day 41

I saw this old video I made a few weeks or so. I figured I would release it, to see the old Citadel before it is never seen again. Lost in the voids of space to drift forever or until Salvaged.


https://youtu.be/XNhKZ2-KoNU
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#50 - 2015-09-06 05:08:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 42 ( 5 1/2 Hours)


O.K. this sucks. I made a video in HD playing with settings but it is telling me the video is corrupt. I am re-doing it over again like normal and will post it tomorrow. I will just post the first frame. middle frame and close to the end frame as a picture and will post the video tomorrow.

It looks a little cool, so I pissed that doing a HD video did not work out.

Now that I'm done with my website project, I will be spending some more time on the project again.

Sorry, as soon as I get the video I will post it.


http://i60.tinypic.com/2095c7d.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/10seii9.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/i2suhw.jpg


I will post the video as a separate forum so that anyone can tell that I updated. Since I'm redoing the video I am going to watch some Dragonball Z.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#51 - 2015-09-07 07:08:09 UTC
Day 43 (8 Hours)


Went through a lot of trouble trying to get this video to work. I bet it was the volumetric light and render settings.

Anyways, I stopped the video render early so it would process. It kept messing up if I ran it to the very end.

https://youtu.be/U4DbSESi9Po


I have been messing around with some ideas on the shape of my structure, nothing yet. Here's how it looks so far though.

http://i62.tinypic.com/20hao1d.jpg


In the meantime I am going to rebuild my interior.

http://i57.tinypic.com/aavdqw.jpg (My New Hallway coming from hanger elevator)
http://i58.tinypic.com/ddnkfb.jpg (Going into my new hallway leading to my Captain Quarters)


This is my new hallway leading to my Captain Quarters.

http://i58.tinypic.com/ddnkfb.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1zfljyt.jpg


And finally my new Captain Quarters with a loft this time.

http://i59.tinypic.com/4jwbyh.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/vhgwpi.jpg


Got lots to do on all these, so I am going to get back to it.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#52 - 2015-09-08 02:05:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 44 (5 Hours)


Today I built some lights for my platform heading into the Captain Quarters.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2w7o8ig.jpg


I built a staircase heading to the loft.

http://i60.tinypic.com/15hzek4.jpg


I brought up my bar from the old room.

http://i57.tinypic.com/24mb1js.jpg


Everything in the room so far.

http://i62.tinypic.com/ffcylv.jpg
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#53 - 2015-09-08 23:41:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 45 (5 1/2 Hours)


Posting early today, since I made a lot better video of almost the same thing as the last video.

ArrowHere are some images from the video I am going to be rendering from now and all night for tomorrows posting.

http://i61.tinypic.com/1z6uwcg.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/b694p3.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2qbhb9w.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/acbxc6.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/hv2r8z.jpg



ArrowI also starting to make wings for my Citadel. I am thinking of a upper look almost similar to the Caldari Raven.

http://i61.tinypic.com/e6xdug.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/2vrwpok.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2rd91fl.jpg
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#54 - 2015-09-10 05:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 46 (A Lot of Hours)


O.K. I made a new video and it is better , but wow there is a lot of problems again. I think I found my computers limitation. Volumetric lights. I do not know why but that's twice now. so no more until I upgrade. My computer is older has no right to run these type of programs anyways, so I am not completely surprised, just pissed.

From the images from yesterdays post. you should be able to see how it is supposed to look and does look, but it keep failing.

A 40 second video turned into 10 seconds. Sorry and no more with the lights. I want to make videos and not watch the renders fail after 5 hours.

Anyways. I always show my failures, so here you go.

https://youtu.be/fngNY5RbhhA
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#55 - 2015-09-11 17:02:06 UTC
Day 47 (5 Hours)


I am posting late, since I fell asleep last night making a video. I have played with my render settings so much I can not get my quality back to default settings.

I was not going to post it, but I will, just so you can see what I am talking about. The only way to correct it is turning up sample sizes with maybe global Illumination and it takes 15 minutes a frame to render. A 40 second clip would take like 300 hours for me.

I will not do that until I have everything done and starting to make actual videos and not these little testers.

https://youtu.be/Ty_MBvphNWY


Here is the support beams in the Captains Hallway.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2141g8z.jpg


I started to do a little more in the command Center. This is the platform where all the computers will be.

http://i59.tinypic.com/msdp9l.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/29cszg2.jpg (You can see my character for size reference.)
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#56 - 2015-09-12 04:24:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Day 48 (4 Hours)


A couple things today, but spent 2 hours making lights for each room for images. I also watched some lighting tutorials on Youtube, but they did not apply to me right now. I specific questions I need specific answers for and might take a few searches along the way to find the answers.

Arrow Let's start inside first. I started to think about the doors, but since nothing is done yet I just colored it Red or else you would not see it.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2e3o9kp.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/nr115d.jpg



Arrow Down the hallway, to the first right and at the end, to the left I place some windows in the hall. The very last image in this post you can see the new windows from the outside.

http://i61.tinypic.com/54cdbk.jpg


Now For the outside.


Arrow I did a little more on the wings. Even though it looks almost like weapons, they are in fact communications array's or dampeners. I will mix up the styles of the middle arrays, but since I only made one so far they look the same right now.

http://i61.tinypic.com/16byr8h.jpg


Arrow Small structuring on the top of the Command Center.

http://i57.tinypic.com/xe3pkp.jpg


Big smile This is where I am so far from the outside. ( I removed the hanger from the picture due to the fact I think I will end up scrapping it.)

http://i61.tinypic.com/2r6e5v9.jpg (The four white lights are the new windows in the hallway.)

Just a test because I never tried it and I want to see if it works. The image above as a forum pic link.


[IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/2r6e5v9.jpg[/IMG]


Cry No, it did not work. O'well
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#57 - 2015-09-15 05:40:00 UTC
Day 49 (2 Hours)


I mostly played Eve this weekend to make enough for a PLEX, but I created six rooms on the main floor, but I will show it in my next video walkthrough. You do not want to see a couple hallways I created looking the same. Here is two though

http://i58.tinypic.com/2zrpymg.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/w05o2s.jpg


I started making an elevator heading to the Command Center.

http://i60.tinypic.com/23jhc00.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2q86355.jpg


OK. That's all I did. I am going to reply to the forum post where I am complaining and people keep responding. Awesome.

Like I said in the post I am going to do some computers to put around the Citadel, but I do not want to create items that small yet. So, maybe I will start on creating my second ship. A Stealth Bomber unless someone has a request.
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#58 - 2015-09-15 15:56:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
If you're using Cinema 4d I can only guess that it's not a legal copy. Try Blender. It's free and quite powerful. Amarrian Chapel Only a few hours of actual work there. Spend more time on lighting and design decisions than actual modelling effort. Maybe not a user friendly as some of the higher end, production programs I've worked with but there are plenty of tutorials online and it all starts to make more sense once you get the hang of how the program handles things.

Daemun of Khanid
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#59 - 2015-09-15 17:34:45 UTC
Thanks for the feedback. I am using a legal copy that an old boss gave me a while back. R13 version and no plug-ins. I seen blender before and will look at it again, but I have always considered it to be very low-end and did not want to hinder my learning curve. Made me think though, maybe Blender would be better now than this old version. (Plus, I use to do only space scenery images because I sucked at modeling)

Just saw your image. Very nice. I love your lighting

I have been looking into lighting a lot lately. I go to render and there is hotspots with the lights. I've started organizing my lights and have them only interact with certain items. I'm Getting better, but still lots to learn. This is the first time I've used these types of programs this much.

I will take in what you said and sit down to come up with design decisions. Right now I am bouncing around doing things here and there with no direction, just an end goal.

Since I had a great player donation last night and bought a PLEX, I do not have to play Eve today and will do some more work on the Citadel.

Thanks Again.
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#60 - 2015-09-15 18:10:15 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
If you're using Cinema 4d I can only guess that it's not a legal copy. Try Blender. It's free and quite powerful. Amarrian Chapel Only a few hours of actual work there. Spend more time on lighting and design decisions than actual modelling effort. Maybe not a user friendly as some of the higher end, production programs I've worked with but there are plenty of tutorials online and it all starts to make more sense once you get the hang of how the program handles things.



Last reply was for you as well.

I am trying Blender now and will watch some tutorials to see if I enjoy it better than my 5 or 6 year old program.

I am also looking for a good free game engine to try, if you happen to know a good one.