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Name Change Certificate

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Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#1 - 2015-09-05 15:50:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Esnaelc Sin'led
Hi o7

I'm sure i'm not the only one coming up with this idea.
Please erase if it's redundant.

My "idea" :
-Make a Pilot's Service just like [Multiple Pilot Training Certificate] or [Pilot's Body Resculpt Certificate] to let player change the name of a character. [Name Change Certificate]
- Make a [Name History] just like the [Employment History].
- Make an option while searching a character name in [People & Places] to display result by actual name or concidering name history.
- Character will still appear on watchlist even after a name change (make labels !).
[edit] :
- Make it usable only once every 6 months or 3 or 1 year, whatever, to avoid abusive use of that (unless CCP wants moar money :p)

Advantages :
- More money to CCP !
- No character disapearing from contact.
- Can still find someone with name 'A' if he change to 'B'.
Zeus Cronus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-09-05 16:03:37 UTC
+1
Mag's
Azn Empire
#3 - 2015-09-05 16:40:06 UTC
When Eve has 'Toons', I'll think about it and let you know my stance.

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Thirsty ben Lucky
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-09-05 16:55:02 UTC
Awesome!
Because i find this toon's name so very dumb.
(i made it while drunk)
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-09-05 18:04:31 UTC
I like this idea. The idea of being able to change CHARACTER (no "toons" in EvE, please, have mercy and edit your title / OP...it hurts) names has, however, been discussed a lot since the beginning of EvE. CCP doesn't want to do that



Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#6 - 2015-09-05 18:15:23 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
I like this idea. The idea of being able to change CHARACTER (no "toons" in EvE, please, have mercy and edit your title / OP...it hurts) names has, however, been discussed a lot since the beginning of EvE. CCP doesn't want to do that


Changed toon for character.
I don't see where is the issue with toon, but whatever.

I know CCP don't want to change characters' name cause of history / reputations thingy, but hey, they've changed so many principles the last year that i'm hopping to see this coming one day. (clones loss / clone reputation / jump fatigue / Null Sec revamp)
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#7 - 2015-09-05 21:49:40 UTC
Esnaelc Sin'led wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
I like this idea. The idea of being able to change CHARACTER (no "toons" in EvE, please, have mercy and edit your title / OP...it hurts) names has, however, been discussed a lot since the beginning of EvE. CCP doesn't want to do that


Changed toon for character.
I don't see where is the issue with toon, but whatever.

I know CCP don't want to change characters' name cause of history / reputations thingy, but hey, they've changed so many principles the last year that i'm hopping to see this coming one day. (clones loss / clone reputation / jump fatigue / Null Sec revamp)

Don't count on it, and I would not expect it.
The whole clone loss thing was essentially a worthless situation since it never really had any impact on game play.
Jump fatigue and the nul sec revamp were required because those aspects of the game were poison to the game as a whole.
Poor choice of character name on the other hand really only affects the player that started the character but not the game as a whole.
Rita Jita
Caldari Provisions
#8 - 2015-09-05 23:01:34 UTC
As i understand it the reason behind not being able to change names is due to security.

at least this was the petition response some many years ago, doubt they would have changed their stance on the matter.

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Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
#9 - 2015-09-06 04:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyranis Marcus
Donnachadh wrote:

The whole clone loss thing was essentially a worthless situation since it never really had any impact on game play.


Even worse. It had a lot of impact by discouraging high-skillpoint players from participating in pvp. I remember when losing a rifter and pod would cost me a few mil for the rifter and mods plus 20 mil for a clone, and older players had it a lot worse. It really needed to go for the health of the game. Of course in bigger more expensive ships it was a less extreme percentage of the loss, but it still sucked.

It also had an impact when somebody screwed up and forgot to update their clone and then died, lol. A friend of mine lost his Caldari BS V right after getting his Golem. That had to suck major ass.

Personally, I'm glad those days are over.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#10 - 2015-09-06 04:14:27 UTC
Well, for one thing, let me thank you for not being one of those usual vultures who just simply ask for name changes without any consideration or thought into why it hasn't been done yet. To the contrary, you have actually listed a series of acceptable trades and restrictions for said service in an attempt to answer most if not all of the issues regarding this idea's history, so again thanks for at least showing an obvious effort to accept a compromise to make this a more reasonable request. I applaud your work, good sir, and offer my +1 that this is not just another "GIMME, GIMME" thread.

Again, you have my +1, as long as it's done similar to what you have here, I'm game.

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Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#11 - 2015-09-06 07:29:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Esnaelc Sin'led
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Well, for one thing, let me thank you for not being one of those usual vultures who just simply ask for name changes without any consideration or thought into why it hasn't been done yet. To the contrary, you have actually listed a series of acceptable trades and restrictions for said service in an attempt to answer most if not all of the issues regarding this idea's history, so again thanks for at least showing an obvious effort to accept a compromise to make this a more reasonable request. I applaud your work, good sir, and offer my +1 that this is not just another "GIMME, GIMME" thread.

Again, you have my +1, as long as it's done similar to what you have here, I'm game.


Thanks a lot for noticing it. :)
Renfus
Dread Fleet
Drop Imminent
#12 - 2015-09-06 16:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Renfus
Rita Jita wrote:
As i understand it the reason behind not being able to change names is due to security.

at least this was the petition response some many years ago, doubt they would have changed their stance on the matter.


Well if that's the case they can create a name change history log like they do for Corp history..
I mean what if the character was bought or traded??
Then the name means nothing security wise..

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-09-07 00:00:32 UTC
Why would you need to change your original name? Your name is your reputation. That's about it, why should it be so critical to change e.g. John vs J0hn ? You've been playing with "John Wick"and now wanna be "datbigscarryboat".

Hey i remember there was a guy a trusted 3rd party "darknesss" or either "darkne$$$". Roll

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#14 - 2015-09-07 01:04:15 UTC
Renfus wrote:

Well if that's the case they can create a name change history log like they do for Corp history..
I mean what if the character was bought or traded??
Then the name means nothing security wise..

Because when looking at a list of names in local you do not have time to look at all 100 for a name change history to see if they might be 'x' who is known for awoxing fellow militia members.
Just to give you exactly one example.

Sure a character can be sold, but they still come with history and build on that. Buy a known awox character and see how many people believe you that it's been sold for example.
Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#15 - 2015-09-07 08:05:42 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Renfus wrote:

Well if that's the case they can create a name change history log like they do for Corp history..
I mean what if the character was bought or traded??
Then the name means nothing security wise..

Because when looking at a list of names in local you do not have time to look at all 100 for a name change history to see if they might be 'x' who is known for awoxing fellow militia members.
Just to give you exactly one example.

Sure a character can be sold, but they still come with history and build on that. Buy a known awox character and see how many people believe you that it's been sold for example.


As long as everything going around a character is not affected by a name change, that means, reputation -5 -10, notes you put on his character, labels you put on him in your whatchlist, if you chose to see him logging off and logging out, once you figure out that John became Peter, it's done.

I really cannot see the issue, that's just pure ''conservativ" spirit.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#16 - 2015-09-07 09:34:32 UTC
+1

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-09-07 09:38:46 UTC
The issue is - why the hell should i look through the name history of every character just to make sure i had a righ sticker on that individual?

Hey Man soz, i was Johnny now call me Peter plz. Why ? cause i want CCP earn more money.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2015-09-07 09:48:59 UTC
+1, yeah yeah Consistences an all that but i don't see this as an issue if the character is shown up on a search for either name.

Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#19 - 2015-09-07 10:25:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Esnaelc Sin'led
Tiddle Jr wrote:
The issue is - why the hell should i look through the name history of every character just to make sure i had a righ sticker on that individual?

Hey Man soz, i was Johnny now call me Peter plz. Why ? cause i want CCP earn more money.


Why the hell would you look at a character bio ? Employment History ? Why the hell would you put any reputation at all to an individual ? Why would you care at all about what he did in the pass ?
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#20 - 2015-09-07 10:27:52 UTC
i dont see any reason to troll through bio's and history unless you are recruiting, then the api will tell everything

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