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Do the new structures have to be anchored around moons?

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Scarlett Stolas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-09-02 11:00:07 UTC
I'm a bit confused about how and where exactly new structures can be deployed. Do you have an anchor a Citadel around a moon like a POS or can you deploy it anywhere like a Mobile Depot?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2015-09-02 11:38:57 UTC
Anywhere. (though you won't be able to anchor them next to each other)

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Hulk Miner
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-09-02 16:24:18 UTC
A DEV on alliance tournament stated it had to be more than 600km from the nearest entity so the citadel defence guns could not be exploited. Apart from that anywhere goes it seems.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2015-09-02 17:39:41 UTC
Hulk Miner wrote:
A DEV on alliance tournament stated it had to be more than 600km from the nearest entity so the citadel defence guns could not be exploited. Apart from that anywhere goes it seems.

... which is roughly the default size of a grid. Blink
Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
#5 - 2015-09-02 20:25:04 UTC
That brings to mind a question I often forget to ask, how far out can you go in space in any one random direction?

If someone were to set a point and fly at full speed from downtime to downtime, and anchor a new structure out that far into the vast nothingness, would that work? Places could really be stretched out that way.

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#6 - 2015-09-02 22:52:35 UTC
Vincenzo Arbosa wrote:
That brings to mind a question I often forget to ask, how far out can you go in space in any one random direction?

If someone were to set a point and fly at full speed from downtime to downtime, and anchor a new structure out that far into the vast nothingness, would that work? Places could really be stretched out that way.



Assume snaked/linked/etc interceptor moving at a make-the-math-easy 10km/s.

10x60x60x23.5=846,000km.

You could always try to find a deepsafe and burn from there if you wanted to be right out in the boondocks.

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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#7 - 2015-09-03 02:22:36 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:


Assume snaked/linked/etc interceptor moving at a make-the-math-easy 10km/s.

10x60x60x23.5=846,000km.

You could always try to find a deepsafe and burn from there if you wanted to be right out in the boondocks.

By using the safejump mecanic you can go 1 mill km in a few seconds.
Log of, log in, make a bm. If you are lucky, your going in the right direction. But better use ship without a fast alignment, so that you have time to make the bm.

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Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
#8 - 2015-09-03 03:44:50 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Vincenzo Arbosa wrote:
That brings to mind a question I often forget to ask, how far out can you go in space in any one random direction?

If someone were to set a point and fly at full speed from downtime to downtime, and anchor a new structure out that far into the vast nothingness, would that work? Places could really be stretched out that way.



Assume snaked/linked/etc interceptor moving at a make-the-math-easy 10km/s.

10x60x60x23.5=846,000km.

You could always try to find a deepsafe and burn from there if you wanted to be right out in the boondocks.



But that's just day one. Assuming that you made a chain of these things in a system, eventually you'd be out in the boondocks, right?

I wonder if there is a hard limit somewhere.
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Hulk Miner
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-09-03 05:58:54 UTC
Indeed there has been a limit imposed by CCP for the past 5 years.


Quote:
The Great Deep Safe Nerf of 2010

2010-04-12 20:14 |By CCP Lemur | Comments

Tl;dr After Tyrannis, for any point more than 10AU outside the furthest celestial in the system, you will not be able to open cynos, create bookmarks, or warp to that location. Also, all "stuff" outside this range will be deleted during Tyrannis deployment.


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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-09-03 10:15:07 UTC
To cover 10AU at 10km/sec:

1AU ~=150 000 000km, so to cover 10 AU at 10km/sec takes 150 000 000 seconds
2 500 000 minutes
42 000 hours (rounding)
With 23.5 hours a day, 1773 days
4.85 years.

Space is Big.
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#11 - 2015-09-03 13:22:36 UTC
Try this:
Send your scandrones out, open the old map, zoom out and move the drones in one direction. When they bump on a wall and get pushed together, then they have reached the end of the levelbox where the system is located in.

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Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
#12 - 2015-09-03 19:50:51 UTC
Thanks for that, I appreciate the info, the math, and the visual!

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2015-09-03 21:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Vincenzo Arbosa wrote:
That brings to mind a question I often forget to ask, how far out can you go in space in any one random direction?

If someone were to set a point and fly at full speed from downtime to downtime, and anchor a new structure out that far into the vast nothingness, would that work? Places could really be stretched out that way.

The following was tested once-upon-a-time: There doesn't seem to be a limit to the distance one can travel (or it is too far to be tested), and if you travel far enough to reach the next system, you don't actually enter that system.

In the Tyrannis release, a limit of 10 au from the furthest celestial was added for bookmarks, warping, and cynos.

The furthest bookmark in history (now removed) was 5,900,000,000 au or 95,000 ly from its sun, or roughly the same distance as the diameter of the milky way

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-deep-safe-nerf-of-2010/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-not-so-great-after-all-deep-safe-nerf-of-2010/