Market Discussions

Hello,


The first thing you need to consider is the location, this is the most important thing. Don't worry about the margins yet, those will come later.

'Go where the people are'.
There is no point seeding a dead end system which never has any visitors. Depending on your available capital I would have several suggestions as to where to start seeding.
As you mentioned you are looking to make isk passively without 0.01isk my best suggestion would be looking into mission hubs. They will still be busy with traders doing what you're doing but I have no doubt that you can leave items there and they will sell 'eventually', and you'll still make a nice margin.

Your second option if you have a bit more time/isk is inter-regional trading. Buying in one hub and selling in another. This is very competitive though and not a great idea do get into unless you have an efficient setup or lots of time to update orders.
You can still try smaller trade hubs outside the main 5 but not sure on how good they will be as I have no experience with them.


There are a few things to get the juices flowing. If you want to ask me any questions I'm ingame in 'Illegal Investments' channel or through 'Illegal Clone 001'.


Happy trading, o7

II

It's not a bad idea but understanding why the traffic is there is important too, if it's a route to a trade hub most people are not going to stop or check the market on the way.

I post some commonly used staples in Uedama for us on the market as a supplier of last resort, but the movement is slow. Prices kinda have to be high otherwise our opponents just buy them out.

Our logistical backbone is solid and Uedama is close to Jita anyway. (Plus moving stuff from Jita to Uedama is a bit safer for someone blue to both CODE. and Miniluv).

We can always use more hulls there, but the markups on them are pretty terrible. I'm actually considering setting up a production line for Talos hulls in the lowsec system next to Uedama (which has super, super low build indicies for some reason) but I've never got around to doing it (and I don't see this as a big moneymaker, more as a service to the alliance).

I've also experimented with seeding minor mission hubs (for a short term I ran the market for T2 drones in Apanake, which was profitable but not lucrative) and chasing incursions to sell stuff there (which was a total waste of time - only ammo and drones sold and even though the markup was considerable, the turnover wasn't enough to merit it).

The one success I've had with market seeding came from looking at an established minor hub (one of the systems with 0.25-1T in sell orders listed) and using my connections with one of the entities in the area to discover 'oh, these people love Assault Frigates'. So I imported ten billion ISK or so worth of AFs and sold them at hub price + 20%.

Quite Interested to know how that went. Presumably you sold them all but was it quick or did it take some time.
One of the reasons I CANT trade outside of the major hubs is the lack of viability. So much of my trade requires people to see my orders or a high turn over.




No problem, (assuming my ideas helped too haha) let us know how you get on. Would be interested to hear about your experience seeding a minor hub.



II

sooo, i sold my first 15 drones and a cloak yesterday :D

that brings my profit to about 500k isk/hr (of actual work).

not bad

Which drones?

Should of gone geckos. Big returns on those things.

same here. i don't really like speculation based on unsafe things. learned my lesson from capital cargo rigs. anyone want to buy some BPOs for them ?

Have you bought from them to determine who's feeding the market?
A bit of research might determine who your competitors are... would be terrible if their pos was to melt or they became wardec'd...

it's a 130 man corp that's actually active in pvp.

a wardec is not a good option