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CCP created their own incursion fleet to increase revenue?

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John Packard
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
#1 - 2015-08-31 18:40:51 UTC
CCP created their own incursion fleet to increase revenue? Shocked

I notice a big control over the kundalini a few hours after the new incursion spawn in empire for last several days. Some claim the Russians are behind this and pretty much bent because of the new changes in game. But in reality many believe that EVE very own devs are pulling the strings to try to pool the ISK flow from people buying plex with ISK. Will this hurt CCP market edventually ?

Rant Away
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-08-31 18:43:11 UTC
Miner, you're going to need to start making sense and explaining yourself.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Erik Mercade
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-08-31 18:43:33 UTC
What are you actually saying?

Sir Erik Mercade, the Jarl of J-Space, The Scourge of the Spaceways, and the Better Bear Baiter, by the bidding of Bob
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-31 18:44:27 UTC
What is wrong with the devs running their own fleets? As long as they are not fake dev generated characters, they have as much right as anybody to play how they wish. If they want to blitz highsec incursions off the grid? Good for them. Just as long as they are doing it legit as players.

If incursions are up so short that nobody who actually enjoys them can have fun, maybe they can tweak the control timer so they are harder to adjust?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2015-08-31 18:56:48 UTC
I think they are trying to say drifter incursions will blow people up. People that get blown up don't have as much isk, therefor plex prices will go down?

or is it, null blocks are crushing highsec incursions, meaning less farm -> less isk -> plex prices go down?

either way, meh HTFU, adapt or die, and all that stuff

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-08-31 18:58:56 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
I think they are trying to say drifter incursions will blow people up. People that get blown up don't have as much isk, therefor plex prices will go down?

or is it, null blocks are crushing highsec incursions, meaning less farm -> less isk -> plex prices go down?

either way, meh HTFU, adapt or die, and all that stuff


I do find it funny how that is the line of the highsec Carebear for 2015 and us telling it to the pvp whines.... (refering specifically about myself and some other forum posters I know, not you specifically)

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
John Packard
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
#7 - 2015-08-31 19:26:58 UTC  |  Edited by: John Packard
Markus Reese wrote:
What is wrong with the devs running their own fleets? As long as they are not fake dev generated characters, they have as much right as anybody to play how they wish. If they want to blitz highsec incursions off the grid? Good for them. Just as long as they are doing it legit as players.

If incursions are up so short that nobody who actually enjoys them can have fun, maybe they can tweak the control timer so they are harder to adjust?


See you have just open a can of worms here and that explains the problem at hand.

As a customer I feel like I been cheated by power of the creator !!!


Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Miner, you're going to need to start making sense and explaining yourself.



CCP Is EVIL and T2 miners accounts are worth billions. you buying?
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#8 - 2015-08-31 19:42:13 UTC
John Packard wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
What is wrong with the devs running their own fleets? As long as they are not fake dev generated characters, they have as much right as anybody to play how they wish. If they want to blitz highsec incursions off the grid? Good for them. Just as long as they are doing it legit as players.

If incursions are up so short that nobody who actually enjoys them can have fun, maybe they can tweak the control timer so they are harder to adjust?


See you have just open a can of worms here and that explains the problem at hand.

As a customer I feel like I been cheated by power of the creator !!!


Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
Miner, you're going to need to start making sense and explaining yourself.



CCP Is EVIL and T2 miners accounts are worth billions. you buying?


The tinfoil is strong with this one. The grammar however, is not.

Not today spaghetti.
Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-08-31 19:49:02 UTC
John Packard wrote:
CCP Is EVIL and T2 miners accounts are worth billions. you buying?


I know you think this helped, but it really didn't.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#10 - 2015-08-31 20:02:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
John Packard wrote:
CCP Is EVIL and T2 miners accounts are worth billions. you buying?


I know you think this helped, but it really didn't.

I think overall hes saying:

PLEX prices are too high, so he believes CCP have started running incursions themselves in order to reduce ISK flow to players, so they can't pay those high prices. As a result, the PLEX price will eventually drop because players won't be able to afford to continue paying the current prices as CCP is taking the ISK out of the game themselves through their fleets; and in the meantime, players that use PLEX rather than subscription, have to buy PLEX from CCP thereby increasing CCP's revenue.

He's tinfoil wrapped. Extra strength.

The incursion community is what, a couple of hundred people? Not really a huge impact on ISK flow, even if it were true.
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#11 - 2015-08-31 20:34:57 UTC
*rubs chin thoughtfully* Go on . . .
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#12 - 2015-08-31 20:36:33 UTC
fuel blocks can't melt steel beams
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2015-08-31 20:44:26 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
The incursion community is what, a couple of hundred people? Not really a huge impact on ISK flow, even if it were true.


wasn't there an isk faucet graph at one of the fanfests? I remember incursions paying out a lot, but they also give LP so there is some sink.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2015-08-31 20:50:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
John Packard wrote:
CCP created their own incursion fleet to increase revenue? Shocked

I notice a big control over the kundalini a few hours after the new incursion spawn in empire for last several days. Some claim the Russians are behind this and pretty much bent because of the new changes in game. But in reality many believe that EVE very own devs are pulling the strings to try to pool the ISK flow from people buying plex with ISK. Will this hurt CCP market edventually ?

Rant Away




If CCP is killing the Sansha mom after it spawns, instead of doing what the players do, which is let the mom lager there for days while continuing to turbo-farm the sites, then so what.

It's time for that or something like that to happen. One of the dumbest things about incursions, the most broken thing, is to be able to let the mothership sit there while continuing to farm, even after all that site engagement is exactly what brings out that mothership!!

Were it up to me, there would be a timer on that mothership, and all other sites cease to respawn when it appears. And I would give it any number of hours based on how long it took to spawn it, and if the mothership is able to leave without being killed, NOBODY gets LP payout. Period.

Yeah I know "ooh the tears!" "Ohhh that sucks I'm going to un-sub my 5232126 accounts and CCP will have to eat from the dumpster without me!" and all that other crap. So what. If you're so entitled, GTFO!

This is why I say everybody who cries over incursions being an ISK faucet should get together and start popping the moms, but they do not, because the same people are the ones running highsec incursion alts.

Now finally, if this is true, then CCP has realized that the inflation of PLEX prices is starting to damage the game.

If that's the case, then it's time for players who care about the game (I'm looking at you, gankers who claim to be helping the game by ganking people) to get together and start popping these moms the moment the appear. This will cut down the turbo-farming. (and if you like tears, get ready for an ocean of them the moment you start popping the mom - but your own nullsec friends running highsec incursion alts will hate you and therefore, hypocrisy as usual).

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2015-08-31 20:56:37 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Were it up to me, there would be a timer on that mothership, and all other sites cease to respawn when it appears. And I would give it any number of hours based on how long it took to spawn it, and if the mothership is able to leave without being killed, NOBODY gets LP payout. Period.


nah, that's boring, mom should spawn right on the fleet that caused it to spawn, or warp in on whatever fleet decides to go after other sites. Plus the other sites should probably stop spawning at that point Twisted

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-08-31 21:41:11 UTC
Sneaky Russians. Space illuminosky are behind everything...











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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-08-31 21:48:36 UTC
Maybe instead of having systems that each have their own site, what they need is escalation based on control?

So the more control, the fewer small sites and the more big sites, but same total number of sites. When mom appears, you have just that system left with a few HQ sites?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2015-08-31 21:50:13 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Were it up to me, there would be a timer on that mothership, and all other sites cease to respawn when it appears. And I would give it any number of hours based on how long it took to spawn it, and if the mothership is able to leave without being killed, NOBODY gets LP payout. Period.


nah, that's boring, mom should spawn right on the fleet that caused it to spawn, or warp in on whatever fleet decides to go after other sites. Plus the other sites should probably stop spawning at that point Twisted



See this is why your old image sig with the apoc used to scare me whenever I saw it in the old C&P forum.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#19 - 2015-08-31 21:58:05 UTC
John Packard wrote:
CCP created their own incursion fleet to increase revenue? Shocked

I notice a big control over the kundalini a few hours after the new incursion spawn in empire for last several days. Some claim the Russians are behind this and pretty much bent because of the new changes in game. But in reality many believe that EVE very own devs are pulling the strings to try to pool the ISK flow from people buying plex with ISK. Will this hurt CCP market edventually ?

Rant Away





You, good sir, have obviously not been shaving with Occam's Razor.

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-08-31 22:04:21 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

See this is why your old image sig with the apoc used to scare me whenever I saw it in the old C&P forum.


Must off topic on this...

Now I miss my old Ferox one.

"Ferox, if only your myrmidon could look this good"

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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