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DHB WildCat
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#1 - 2015-08-30 23:12:01 UTC
To CCP,

can we get a chart of the tournament APM like you guys showed briefly in the second weekend? Curious to see how the numbers were after the entire tourney. TY
Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#2 - 2015-08-30 23:20:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mystic Rebel
http://i.imgur.com/HjRAcaL.jpg

Nvm, it's the yesterday one.
Dancul1001
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2015-08-30 23:36:06 UTC
typical pl we suck 2nd lost apm
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2015-08-31 04:30:23 UTC
Brave in at number 6, woot!

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Lucas Quaan
DEMONS OF THE HIDDEN MIST
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#5 - 2015-08-31 11:25:08 UTC
Autism Per Member?
Anxious Pushing on Mice?
Alternative Penis Measurement?
DHB WildCat
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#6 - 2015-08-31 14:59:52 UTC
Lucas Quaan wrote:
Autism Per Member?
Anxious Pushing on Mice?
Alternative Penis Measurement?




Actions per minute. Its a way to measure how active your pilots are during a match. Or another way to look at it is how hard your team is working to win
Dancul1001
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2015-08-31 15:24:45 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
Lucas Quaan wrote:
Autism Per Member?
Anxious Pushing on Mice?
Alternative Penis Measurement?




Actions per minute. Its a way to measure how active your pilots are during a match. Or another way to look at it is how hard your team is working to win



its not sure true thou cause a lot of the time pl left **** alive so we could loot ie lowering our apm
Lucas Quaan
DEMONS OF THE HIDDEN MIST
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#8 - 2015-08-31 18:09:40 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
Lucas Quaan wrote:
Autism Per Member?
Anxious Pushing on Mice?
Alternative Penis Measurement?




Actions per minute. Its a way to measure how active your pilots are during a match. Or another way to look at it is how hard your team is working to win

I know what APM means, hence the first two suggested interpretations to illustrate how little this means in a game based on a 1 s tick rate, beyond a use along the lines of the last suggestion. ;)
Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#9 - 2015-09-01 01:06:47 UTC
APM isn't really that good of an indicator though, the APM of teams probably varies greatly depending on the type of comp they are bringing, PL brought mostly Turtles/Defensive Setups which is probably why they are low on the Graph, Especially Tinkers, there is very little positioning going on in the matches, and it usually relies on weapon systems which are independent of positioning obviously, so there are far less 'useful' positioning related actions to take in the match. Warlords, Camel, Exodus, and the rest of the top teams mostly brought AT XIII rush comps with TFI/T3Ds, where positioning is much more important, and therefore we have higher APM as a result.

It is p. funny that TNT, the literal 'Orbit FC 500 guys' in Orthrus/Cerb kiting gangs is higher than PL on that list tho. But half that APM is probably broadcasting for reps Lol

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Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#10 - 2015-09-01 01:32:52 UTC
Suitonia wrote:

It is p. funny that TNT, the literal 'Orbit FC 500 guys' in Orthrus/Cerb kiting gangs is higher than PL on that list tho. But half that APM is probably broadcasting for reps Lol

Exactly, there are such notions as general apm and effective apm. I wonder if CCP's graph includes modules spam, double click in space spam etc, which is no doubt general apm.
gomlee
Caldari 1
Caldari Alliance
#11 - 2015-09-01 18:24:02 UTC
Suitonia wrote:


It is p. funny that TNT, the literal 'Orbit FC 500 guys' in Orthrus/Cerb kiting gangs is higher than PL on that list tho. But half that APM is probably broadcasting for reps Lol




Lol good one
CCP Antiquarian
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2015-09-02 17:18:28 UTC
I really think we can include more of these hard stats in desk discussions in future events.

Larrikin should be able to provide some for post-tourney chat as well. Lemme pester him.

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CCP Antiquarian
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2015-09-03 11:04:27 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Antiquarian
And....victory (updates pending):

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6005885#post6005885

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W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#14 - 2015-09-08 17:34:44 UTC
Suitonia wrote:
APM isn't really that good of an indicator though, the APM of teams probably varies greatly depending on the type of comp they are bringing, PL brought mostly Turtles/Defensive Setups which is probably why they are low on the Graph, Especially Tinkers, there is very little positioning going on in the matches, and it usually relies on weapon systems which are independent of positioning obviously, so there are far less 'useful' positioning related actions to take in the match. Warlords, Camel, Exodus, and the rest of the top teams mostly brought AT XIII rush comps with TFI/T3Ds, where positioning is much more important, and therefore we have higher APM as a result.

It is p. funny that TNT, the literal 'Orbit FC 500 guys' in Orthrus/Cerb kiting gangs is higher than PL on that list tho. But half that APM is probably broadcasting for reps Lol



Imo its more that if you double click in space in the same direction 20 times and fly the same way as someone who clicked 5 times (some people permaclick, others only click every now and then) is seen as a apm that is 4 times higher.