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O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-08-28 02:18:01 UTC
I Love playing eve in 4K. I currently have 2 sappire vapor-x R9 290X and im upgrading to the zodiac 980 TI! I play it on the latest 55inch samsung 4k TV. Everything is great except for one thing. The upscaling for text is only 150% (maybe more) which makes the overview and ships names in space impossiable to read. So im making this post to ask the DEV's for a larger upscaling or to let the user customise how large the overview, chatbox title, ships names, info in space and anything else I left out. I think a larger upscaling would be easier but im not a dev and dont know whats required to make this fusiable.

Thank you for your time and the new Domi looks great.
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-08-28 03:26:34 UTC
Could get a real monitor and not sit 5m away :P

Have been using 2560*1600 (2x 1080p or 0.5x 4k if you like) and everything is perfect at base setting, no idea what the base setting for scaling is and im on an old laptop atm so cant check :(
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-08-28 05:12:57 UTC  |  Edited by: O2 jayjay
Min 4k resolution is 3840 X 2160 and I really enjoy the game in 3840 X 2160 resoultion. The lighting and debrie are mind blowing. I just wish I could pvp in that resoultion.
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-28 06:51:38 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
Min 4k resolution is 3840 X 2160 and I really enjoy the game in 3840 X 2160 resoultion. The lighting and debrie are mind blowing. I just wish I could pvp in that resoultion.


The reason text and other stuff is to small, is that you sit to far from your monitor, something you do since you have a large "monitor". There is no way your using a 55" TV as other people use monitors (1-1.5m or less distance), your having problems that people have had for the last 15 years atleast when using a TV as monitor...
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-08-28 08:57:19 UTC
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
Min 4k resolution is 3840 X 2160 and I really enjoy the game in 3840 X 2160 resoultion. The lighting and debrie are mind blowing. I just wish I could pvp in that resoultion.


The reason text and other stuff is to small, is that you sit to far from your monitor, something you do since you have a large "monitor". There is no way your using a 55" TV as other people use monitors (1-1.5m or less distance), your having problems that people have had for the last 15 years atleast when using a TV as monitor...


Thats not the problem as i play other games in the TV native resoultion without any issues. Ive used large screens TV as a monitor for 4 years and 4k looks better on a large screen TV. DOTA 2 use to have this issue but the beta version ironed those problems out.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-08-28 09:43:30 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
I play it on the latest 55inch samsung 4k TV..


I fear for your sight Shocked
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-08-28 10:03:57 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
Min 4k resolution is 3840 X 2160 and I really enjoy the game in 3840 X 2160 resoultion. The lighting and debrie are mind blowing. I just wish I could pvp in that resoultion.


The reason text and other stuff is to small, is that you sit to far from your monitor, something you do since you have a large "monitor". There is no way your using a 55" TV as other people use monitors (1-1.5m or less distance), your having problems that people have had for the last 15 years atleast when using a TV as monitor...


Thats not the problem as i play other games in the TV native resoultion without any issues. Ive used large screens TV as a monitor for 4 years and 4k looks better on a large screen TV. DOTA 2 use to have this issue but the beta version ironed those problems out.


Mind uploading screenshots and tell everyone what is bad? Did a quick google search and found several shots thats supposedly 4k and i dont see anything wrong with any of them (other than me having to scroll to sides+up/down ofc)
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#8 - 2015-08-28 14:23:24 UTC
Hey when you upgrade can you send me those "old" video cards it would be nice to get more than $500.00 worth of video cards for free, heck I wil even pay for shipping. Might even make my EvE worth looking at simply for the fun of looking at it.

You are breaking my heart here as well. I mean damn you have these terrible problems when you are trying to play the game with video cards worth $500.00 and a monitor worth close to $1,000.000. Such a crappy system I can easily see how and why you need to upgrade to a new video card worth nearly $700.00. Just got to say it is really hard for me to have any sympathy for your plight and to get behind your request right about now when my entire 5 year old system is worth less than your current video cards.

OK, sorry folks did not mean to wallow around in my self pity and jealousy here in public forgive me since I do not have the right to complain I have a computer to access this game and forums on so that makes me better than more than 75% of the world population so forgive my rant above.

If the devs can make the requested changes easily and without a major rework of the entire system then I see no reason not to support this. However I will add that it needs to go onto the list of someday projects to be worked on when more pressing and more important issues have all been resolved.
Jeanne Wayne
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-08-28 15:05:10 UTC
Using a GTX970 and a 4k Monitor (not TV). Would also like to see a more customazibale Skaling feature.
150% is still pretty small compared to the "normal" 1080 resulution.

Also. if i use window mode, the scaling always resets to 125%, wich sucks
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-08-30 14:11:11 UTC
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
Min 4k resolution is 3840 X 2160 and I really enjoy the game in 3840 X 2160 resoultion. The lighting and debrie are mind blowing. I just wish I could pvp in that resoultion.


The reason text and other stuff is to small, is that you sit to far from your monitor, something you do since you have a large "monitor". There is no way your using a 55" TV as other people use monitors (1-1.5m or less distance), your having problems that people have had for the last 15 years atleast when using a TV as monitor...


Thats not the problem as i play other games in the TV native resoultion without any issues. Ive used large screens TV as a monitor for 4 years and 4k looks better on a large screen TV. DOTA 2 use to have this issue but the beta version ironed those problems out.


Mind uploading screenshots and tell everyone what is bad? Did a quick google search and found several shots thats supposedly 4k and i dont see anything wrong with any of them (other than me having to scroll to sides+up/down ofc)


Sure thing. I will have either a screen shot or video up today
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-08-30 14:14:06 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Hey when you upgrade can you send me those "old" video cards it would be nice to get more than $500.00 worth of video cards for free, heck I wil even pay for shipping. Might even make my EvE worth looking at simply for the fun of looking at it.

You are breaking my heart here as well. I mean damn you have these terrible problems when you are trying to play the game with video cards worth $500.00 and a monitor worth close to $1,000.000. Such a crappy system I can easily see how and why you need to upgrade to a new video card worth nearly $700.00. Just got to say it is really hard for me to have any sympathy for your plight and to get behind your request right about now when my entire 5 year old system is worth less than your current video cards.

OK, sorry folks did not mean to wallow around in my self pity and jealousy here in public forgive me since I do not have the right to complain I have a computer to access this game and forums on so that makes me better than more than 75% of the world population so forgive my rant above.

If the devs can make the requested changes easily and without a major rework of the entire system then I see no reason not to support this. However I will add that it needs to go onto the list of someday projects to be worked on when more pressing and more important issues have all been resolved.


If you pay for the shipping ill sell you both cards for $250.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#12 - 2015-08-30 15:10:44 UTC
Once again this is an example of a feature that CCP should include in a completely new and redesigned UI.

Full customizability and especially resize-ability of any object to any size

The UI update we deserve
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-08-31 11:48:37 UTC
Here is a Video of eve rendered in 4k. Don't know why the game skips on the video but it ran really smooth in RL. As you can see my overview is tiny. when i right click in space i can barely read any of the drop downs. The UI scaling is 150% which is the max i can go. I am requesting a 200-250% UI scaling.

Look how awesome the game looks in 4k. (need a 4k monitor to enjoy)

http://youtu.be/I4rqEyBYxbw
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-08-31 13:30:21 UTC
Dear OP,

Welcome to the "I joined a new tech bandwagon but my games from X years ago don't fully support it" club. I did something like that years ago when going 1920x1080. My games from 12 years before then didn't really support that resolution. It either took time or just never happened.
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-08-31 13:45:20 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Dear OP,

Welcome to the "I joined a new tech bandwagon but my games from X years ago don't fully support it" club. I did something like that years ago when going 1920x1080. My games from 12 years before then didn't really support that resolution. It either took time or just never happened.


EVE updated its graphics to where you can play it in 4k. (Video link above for proof) problem is the UI scaling is too low. EVE runs and supports 4k just fine.

needs UI scaling readjusted
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-08-31 14:08:19 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Dear OP,

Welcome to the "I joined a new tech bandwagon but my games from X years ago don't fully support it" club. I did something like that years ago when going 1920x1080. My games from 12 years before then didn't really support that resolution. It either took time or just never happened.


EVE updated its graphics to where you can play it in 4k. (Video link above for proof) problem is the UI scaling is too low. EVE runs and supports 4k just fine.

needs UI scaling readjusted


Many games were able to run 1080P just fine back then as long as you forgave UI issue. It's pretty much always about the UI because it's designed to work with screen you are about 12-18 inches away from and not 60.
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-08-31 14:17:21 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Dear OP,

Welcome to the "I joined a new tech bandwagon but my games from X years ago don't fully support it" club. I did something like that years ago when going 1920x1080. My games from 12 years before then didn't really support that resolution. It either took time or just never happened.


EVE updated its graphics to where you can play it in 4k. (Video link above for proof) problem is the UI scaling is too low. EVE runs and supports 4k just fine.

needs UI scaling readjusted


Many games were able to run 1080P just fine back then as long as you forgave UI issue. It's pretty much always about the UI because it's designed to work with screen you are about 12-18 inches away from and not 60.


Makes sense but im still goin to ask for larger UI scaling.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#18 - 2015-08-31 14:43:57 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Hey when you upgrade can you send me those "old" video cards it would be nice to get more than $500.00 worth of video cards for free, heck I wil even pay for shipping. Might even make my EvE worth looking at simply for the fun of looking at it.

You are breaking my heart here as well. I mean damn you have these terrible problems when you are trying to play the game with video cards worth $500.00 and a monitor worth close to $1,000.000. Such a crappy system I can easily see how and why you need to upgrade to a new video card worth nearly $700.00. Just got to say it is really hard for me to have any sympathy for your plight and to get behind your request right about now when my entire 5 year old system is worth less than your current video cards.

OK, sorry folks did not mean to wallow around in my self pity and jealousy here in public forgive me since I do not have the right to complain I have a computer to access this game and forums on so that makes me better than more than 75% of the world population so forgive my rant above.

If the devs can make the requested changes easily and without a major rework of the entire system then I see no reason not to support this. However I will add that it needs to go onto the list of someday projects to be worked on when more pressing and more important issues have all been resolved.


If you pay for the shipping ill sell you both cards for $250.

Thank you for the generous offer and for tolerating my rant, but truth be told I simply cannot afford even that price.

After watching your video there is a definitive problem to be addressed for those with the resources to afford the higher end systems and I hope that CCP does have or will put fixing these things into the hopper of projects that need to be done.
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-08-31 17:00:08 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
Here is a Video of eve rendered in 4k. Don't know why the game skips on the video but it ran really smooth in RL. As you can see my overview is tiny. when i right click in space i can barely read any of the drop downs. The UI scaling is 150% which is the max i can go. I am requesting a 200-250% UI scaling.

Look how awesome the game looks in 4k. (need a 4k monitor to enjoy)

http://youtu.be/I4rqEyBYxbw


Sadly i cant see it in 4k as my monitor dont support that resolution, where a screenshot will be viewable in full resolution (if there is a way to force youtube to show me the 4k video i would like to know it :P)
Thomas Gallant
Quafe Company Courier Shipping
#20 - 2015-08-31 19:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Gallant
Hmm, well I'm playing with a 4k monitor and at 150% scaling and that seems to make text big enough for me, granted I'm using a 27" monitor and sitting a lot closer than I would to a 55" TV. But perhaps a way to scale text independantly of the rest of the UI seems like it'd be useful. I do that in other games, scale up the text size because they offer that option (in addition to scaling the UI size up)
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