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The ferox, and her downfall
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Kasey Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-08-30 03:22:26 UTC
i noticed this beauty of a ship a few weeks ago and after fitting it a million ways it occers to me that there is a way to make the ferox possibly have a come back. make its main slots be able to fit missile. 'what do you mean?' make the current turret slots on the ferox omni slots so it can fit at the very least HAMS its supposed to be a multirole BC but why can i only get it to do only one or two roles good? this would make it truly tough in both pve and pvp. i believe it will.
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
Hatakani Trade Winds Combine
#2 - 2015-08-30 03:37:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Rovinia
Öhm, what's wrong with the Ferox?

Its cheap, does 300+ Dps (Spike, Rails without TC's) @ 97 km optimal or good Blaster-DPs if closerange fitted. Tank is decent.

It's only problem is that Sniper-Fleets are not that common at the moment and those who do use Tengus as Railplatform.

But it could use a redesign, CCP should Moa-nize it! ;)
Kasey Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-08-30 03:45:56 UTC
well its just that. its ok but its unable to preform under the current meta as much as everything else. give it the ability to use missiles OR turret weapons it becomes much more versitile deadly and it can become much more useful as well as that 300+ dps only works with tech 2 most people who grab a ferox wont be able to use tech 2 for about a month so give them something that can do just about the same DPS with easier fitting. im talking about newer players of course. but this will open doors to vets as well.
Ben Ishikela
#4 - 2015-08-30 03:57:23 UTC
Ferox has no Bonus to Missiles. You are better off with a Drake then. (Drake has +1Mid Shocked)
Nearly only thing that a Ferox can do better than a Drake: Mining! xD

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Kasey Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-08-30 04:11:34 UTC
Ben Ishikela wrote:
Ferox has no Bonus to Missiles. You are better off with a Drake then. (Drake has +1Mid Shocked)
Nearly only thing that a Ferox can do better than a Drake: Mining! xD


the Ferox doesnt need BONUS' to ECM your ass either give it missiles and people can joint fit it it will be rather destructive with those 7 hardpoints. trust me traits in a ferox do NOT matter its just a small bonus it might as well have a 5% bonus to everything.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-08-30 04:48:26 UTC
Can we have turret slots back on Cyclone. Plz.

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Alessienne Ellecon
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-08-30 04:50:27 UTC
I can get behind this. If Ferox had launcher hardpoints, I'd buy one in a heart beat.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-08-30 06:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
The Ferox used to be a joke of a ship, now it's actually pretty great. I like having omni slots though.

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#9 - 2015-08-30 06:27:06 UTC
While I think that the Ferox is a fine ship, I would not be opposed to giving it missile slots. For that matter, I would be fine with the Cyclone getting its turret hardpoints back as well. All non-bonused, of course.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-08-30 08:46:37 UTC
Rovinia wrote:

But it could use a redesign, CCP should Moa-nize it! ;)


The Ferox does not need a redesign! It is a awesome looking ship already...
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-08-30 10:11:08 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
The Ferox does not need a redesign! It is a awesome looking ship already...

It's symmetrical but it does look dated and those new designs are fantastic so far!

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#12 - 2015-08-30 10:15:35 UTC
Ah yes the tiericide project happened not too long ago and when battlecruisers were on the table they shuffled some slot around and took some away.
The Ferox used to have 5 launcher slots and it was great but with the tiericide they removed them and I told them to leave them on her.
Oh and I made the prediction that people will ask for them back but do I know..

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2015-08-30 13:32:39 UTC
But split weapon systems are awful, and the ferox is actually a pretty good rail sniper, as far as medium rails go.

I mean, we built a doctrine around them, so they can't be that bad.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#14 - 2015-08-30 16:09:40 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
But split weapon systems are awful, and the ferox is actually a pretty good rail sniper, as far as medium rails go.

I mean, we built a doctrine around them, so they can't be that bad.


No one is asking for split bonuses - people just want to be able to fit unbonused missile launchers on the Ferox.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Nafensoriel
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-08-30 17:04:10 UTC
Just... going to leave this here..
Along with a comment about history and those who fail to learn are doomed to repeat it and all that...

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Primarch Apocalypse
Adeptus Imperium
#16 - 2015-08-30 17:42:38 UTC
No one uses the Ferox since it's a useless log. It can be outgunned , outmanuvered and outtanked by nearly all Tier 2 BCs - PvP wise it's dead. PvE wise it never existed.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#17 - 2015-08-30 19:59:43 UTC
Ferox's issue is the general CBC Malise. CCP know CBC's and BS have issues and have said they have some plans to look at them all.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#18 - 2015-08-31 01:00:03 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Ferox's issue is the general CBC Malise. CCP know CBC's and BS have issues and have said they have some plans to look at them all.


Yep and promises, promises, tournament, o7 show, battlecruisers, promises they wouldn't keep, how surprising after the latest debacle.

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#19 - 2015-08-31 07:58:58 UTC
Range is DPS at the ranges snipers like to operate. It's the difference between lobbing lead or thorium vs antimatter at something, and a big difference in accuracy (+50% optimal range means -33% angular velocity at the edge of optimal against the same ship).

It's part of the reason people like to use Navy Omen over Navy Aug in PvE: the Omen may have to sacrifice a high for a probe launcher, but the optimal range bonus on the Navy Omen means the Navy Aug would have to drop to a weaker crystal at the same range. That, and the two extra drones.

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Kasey Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-08-31 12:02:25 UTC
let me be clear. by omni slot i mean ALL hardpoint slots on a ferox can be either missile or turret. this would allow for crazy fits that will most of the time actually maybe work. as for traits. i don't fit my ships to traits if i can fit it better then if i forced myself to fit to trait. 4% is a ****** ass bonus and 10% is also a **** bonus ignore traits unless it benefits the fit you PLAN to use. that being said a mix of 4 missiles and 4 med hybrids would be DEADLY heck a mix for four med hybrids and THREE missiles would **** people up.
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