Crime & Punishment

Ganking (and can flipping too, which was an interesting mechanic prior to ore holds) is only one part of this problem frankly. At least to my perspective, the larger one if getting people into corps with workable war dec mechanics.

Tax on NPC corps did not really fix the problem, and just lead to disposable single person corps everywhere, as with dropping corp. I am not sure of the solution, but making it make sense for groups of people for whom PVP is incidental to their game play to work in groups and to have something worth fighting for as a the goal might lead to a better outcome than just swinging the nerf bat.

I think the process of joining a corp in this game is different too, like full api required. Whereas in other games you just join one often with no real requirements.

Sadly, there are frequent stories of people getting in to corps and wreaking education and havoc because people do accept applications without any requirements or, more importantly, any kind of effort on the recruiter's part to check out who it is they're letting in.

Still, I like the low barrier to starting a corp - newbros who comprehend what sort of a game this is may find some creative uses for them.

The social corps that CCP have been talking about (corp lite, in your example) are terrible and whomever came up with the idea should be forced to read Jita local for an entire work day. They're just going to de-centralise the problem known as NPC corps, which should have been scrapped before they were implemented.

Then no-one will use them and it'll be a waste of dev time coding them.

op did not post elsewhere in Eve Forums? Only here in C&P does anyone understand risk vs. reward? op, you risk losing the validity of your message, and giving the appearance of pandering to a select group. Disseminate your message across the broad section of Eve and give your nomination a chance at success.



Relatively risk free earnings? Wrong! Relative to what? A null bear style of play? A Merc tard style of play? FW?
As it always is with these types of forum posts, We have certain individuals who seem to know "what is best" for everyone. A Wardec doesn't stop me from playing or undocking. Yeah, I do take advantage of a game mechanic to "play smarter" than the other person. By the way, who is more qualified to determine how my character "lives out their hisec lives"? Other players? I think not. As long as I pay for my sub, I will make that determination. I have no interest in telling others how to play Eve. Just play and enjoy.



You want my hisec alts to start "interacting more"? In what ways? I interact with the player base every time I log in, undock, place a buy order, or get ganked! But that is not what you mean is it? Eve is a socially interactive game. But the level of interaction is up to the individual and not the "group think" crowd. The freedom to choose is a cornerstone of the Eve legacy.

As far as your other suggestions: Wardec fee, NPC taxes, Ore distribution, etc. I see no real added value to those changes. This year after year debate about how this "game segment" is broke or unbalanced is old and worn out. The time is ripe for the prospective CSM candidates to find another platform to run on.

Good luck and best wishes
Max

Yup... I did say that didn't I. Let me rephrase that so I can at least give the appearance of being sensitive. " Mentally challenged Mercs". After all, I wouldn't want to be accused of "cyber bullying" little fragile snowflakes.

Have a wonderful day
Max

CCP doesnt need to change corporations to make them more interesting to new players. Corp CEOs do.

The only thing YOU know how to use in player corporations is group hangar, bookmarks, and the dubious honor of using a POS.

Let me say what is the "only" things I see in use for Corps that NPC corps dont offer:
- Insurance: You can insure ships from corp members, and as the corp receives the insurance, they can implement private insurance plans being aware that their members lost ships. So they can reward most proeminent members with insurance of their own.
- In a mission running corp or section, you can see which of your members are contributing more to the corp, in thus, offer incentives for people who contributes more. You can for example use 1% tax, and when a member gets to a given ammount, you give back the taxes plus something to get them interested.
- In the same way of missions, you can do trading incentives, pvp incentives, ratting incentives, and anything the directors and auditors can have data on.
- You can separate your members in groups for each region, making specific contributions in missions, trading or hauling be rewarded, or give more managing powers to them.
- You can create subsectors of your corporation, effectivelly creating something like distinct adminstrative groups that run indepently and do all the above by themselves.
- You can create trading markets for your members using private contracts, making the corporation run organized while you dont need to be 24/7 online managing it.
- You can contract people outside the corporation to do things your corp dont do with the insurances that they wont damage your structure, at the same time you can have delegated people to watch over them.
- You can use the things you listed as useless little things corps can do, to manage other ideas you have you know what they can be used for, instead of hoping the tool works the way you want to do what you want the way you want.
- And you can pretty much control over everything above from the corp interface.

Edit:
I forgot to mention that you also can do the things NPC corps do, like giving missions using contracts, or bounties, kill rights, and etc ... And gather data for standings implementation.

And of course, you can profit 40bil a day when you know how to invest using your corporation.

It is the same thing about solo PVP. You may make a one person corp. I have one. No big deal.

But you cant expect devs to make EVE priming to solo or small corps.

I usually think that the harsh environment for small corps is preciselly to discourage it. Imagine that if you put measures in place to priviledge small corps, what should the big corps do ? divide themselves in small corps.

That is what people do IRL tbh. For the tax reduction and relaxed laws in many countries, big famous corporations sponsor a number of small corporations that are in fact themselves enjoying small corps incentives.

Putting in your example. If it was hard for the Goonswarm to wardec a five people corp, for them it would be easy to just make a new 5 person corp, wardec you with them, and tag their gang along. For them, it would be even better, and you would end up massacred the same.