EVE General Discussion

I was bored in EVE and decided to try factional warfare. I found a system I used to live in an tried there.

For a while it was going okay, a few fights here and there. Some people showed up and fought and whatnot.

After a while a few Russians showed up, some died and some killed me. Then they brought a curse and killed my daredevil before I even got to use it for what I fit. So I tried smalls only to avoid the curse, and they brought a dragoon, which was countered with another dragoon before they even encountered me with their own on d-scan, which was responded to with a "bb" and system leave.


Next day they bring even more numbers and I can't do a damn thing, and end up wasting all my isk and resources in the area. Then they capture the system over, and the system with the station in it I was basing out of, then whenever I enter those systems they pile in within 5 minutes.

I got into an atron and had a navy comet chase me. I logged off for an hour and they returned. I logged off, then on, then off, then waited a half a day and tried again but they still pile back INTO the system, and they chase me if I try flying further in, and so when I bring a t3 destroyer roam into system they aren't anywhere to be found. Not one of them.


An hour later I return thinking they left? Nope they are there waiting for me.

So finally broke I sell my LP to someone through vexor navies, and now I log on without doing anything before logging off. I figure fighting is just going to land me broke yet again so why bother? I have logged on through a few occasions now to receive a notice about a gatecamp in the exact system I was flying to before through militia chat.


So now I am sitting here not playing EVE and realizing you don't win the game by fighting. Not at all, fighting is just a waste of time and isk.



Instead I play Robocraft, which I have been doing great at. I know if I create a vehicle properly and experiment with maneuverability, minimizing what I can to the least I need and such I can wreck opponents who have access to the same things I do. Too bad EVE doesn't work the same way. It isn't the same game based on your skill at design and actual combat with what you have made. It's more a numbers game.


A game based around conflict that doesn't promote conflict. You need to put yourself in a situation that sets you in the firing line to fire upon other people, which wouldn't be an issue if you weren't required to have NPC farming alts and hauling alts. They break the game because the characters you fight don't have to do anything resource related to upkeep, you can't win the war of attrition without carebear alts of your own because you can't hurt their actual logistics.

Even then they just log those alts off, and log on to their other alts and continue playing until they see you alone, then they just switch alts again.


I've seen another system in lowsec before I tried factional warfare, it seemed whenever you entered system a bunch would all log on and blob you, but as soon as me and two other people (individual of themselfs) came along with intentions of revenge they all logged off. This was a different group in a different region.

hurf durf double post.

i agree with you.

there should be some dedicated server for people who want to role play just 1 character.

I'm not into roleplaying. I'm also not into running and paying for 8 accounts, but I shouldn't expect EVE to change because I want it too. I'm just trying to find a place in it instead of quitting.

Not a huge fan of that. I like multiplayer where you're capable of equal grounds.




Carrying out tasks while in FW/wardec or dangerous space IS dangerous, just not to people with alts because they use the alts instead. It's essentially a meta way to "pay to win". Multiple characters all under the control of one person all at once. Why do you think you have to pay to train multiple characters on one account? But I can't expect this to change, so what can I do?

People use alts as a way of not playing EVE with the other people playing EVE. They aren't accepting the package given to them as it is. Can't travel things through certain systems? You could outsource, but that requires the social aspect of the game. So people pay money to do it themselves with multiple characters.


EVE makes more cash per person, but it's players aren't as social. CCP can't do anything about alt's and i'm not sure if less social or no alts are worse for the game.

That is not russian style, that is everyone but British and Americans.

The problem isn't what other people are doing. The problem isn't the game. The problem is you, you are not willing to do the things needed to win whereas others are. Rather than understand that it's you in the wrong and not people who are just using what the game officers, you complain about everything BUT you.


I've been playing for 8 years and have yet to experience the kind of fail you have, and it's the same way with a lot of people. Learn to look at yourself 1st, other people 2nd, and you won't be so unhappy.

This is your problem. One cannot win the game. It has no end, no final goal. It is about surviving, making friends, setting yourself goals and achieving them.

All members of my corporation are my alts. All of them docked in a given place to get market orders in advantage.

Besides them, I have almost the same number of transport ship and freighter pilots to carry on the hauling.

And I do employ a large number of cruiser alts to carry on some killing.

For someone else, only their own vanity makes them diferentiate me alone using 30 pilots from 30 people with 1 pilot each.

You lost against, say, 10 pilots, it doesnt matter if it was 10 alts or 10 people, you would still lose the same way.

it is only your pride that puts difference on that.