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Think about it, would you paint your car this way?

I might paint a barn that color red but not a car or spaceship.

Did u give your artist's 2 hours to make these skins? because I would hate to think they could not do better after their first run.

Please let them make some nicer looking SKINS next time, please?

And you who are saying these skins are good, are you so willing to settle for these?

Think about color usage next time and aesthetics etc...

I'm not trying to be mean here, I'm honestly trying to help.


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Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I wish we didn't have to be provocative to get an answer on these forums (oh sorry i'm doing it again! ) Moving on


I'll comment on you reply in the same order aswell. But the forums won't let me quote the entire thing so i'll summarize at best.

PRICING

Pricing SKINs according to how good CCP thinks they look is an incredibly surprising and terribad idea. Imagine if cars of varying colors had different pricing matching the builder's taste. Anyway... I'm glad you diverted from that.
Then the pricing started to get consistent which was good.
And designer SKINs are consistent aswell but more expensive than regular SKINs... why? DO NOT tell me they take more time to do (I do renderings and concept art for a living and the Designer SKINs that were released so far were NOT a lot of work)

You say frigate SKINs were cheaper because they were gonna be lost more often? SKINs are permanent now. And the Aliastra Incursus SKIN still costs 4300 Aurum for a SKIN that actually changed from awesome-looking to incredibly dull!

I 'm ready to bet the SKIN that took the most work adjusting so far is the caracal nughoeivy SKIN (the orange funky camo). But that should not make it more expensive.

SHIP HULLS

When I talk about multiple hulls I mean that I find the fact that the Dominix and Navy Dominix require two seperate SKINs is close to extorsion. I know you are planning to have variants for each TII hull (soon*). As far as the Bhaalgorn and Serpentis ships are concerned I can't wait for them to get different hulls. If I were you I really wouldn't point that out ;)

Thats why I would find it more consistent that SKINs were categorized like spaceship command skills:

Caldari Frigate RATAA SUNSET SKIN
Caldari Cruiser RATAA SUNSET SKIN
Caldari Command Ship RATAA SUNSET SKIN
Mining Barge SANCTUARY SKIN
Exhumer GURISTAS SKIN

etc...

Of course that's less cash for CCP and thats really the key I guess.
Really????
Using that very logic you should make it that every different ship requires a different skill!

"currently training navitas lvl4" awesome stuff!


IMMERSION

You say the SKIN system is a "complete feature". If you like, but it is horribly immersion breaking in a game with real player driven economy and that will remain disappointing. It's just a "BUY" button when it could have been so much more. It could have bridged some gaps between some of the profession while creating new opportunities and it doesn't. Thats a shame.

PLAYER FEEDBACK

You say the players are really happy about the SKINs systems. Not much surprise here! SKINs were already a recurring subject when I started playing in 2007. So such a long expected feature could really not fail completely. And don't get me wrong some, of the SKINs are great.

There are a few inconsistencies that are the result of a progressive deployment of this feature that need fixing badly, and then, sadly quite a lot of greed from CCP that resulted in some really weird decisions. Add to that the fact that you have been teasing us with SKINs since forever (images of a dozen variants of scorpions, of tornados etc, tech demos which allowed full customization, corp logos etc...) and so far we have none or very little of that. If SKINs are a "complete feature" as you say, it is not the feature you advertised and it is absolutely below most people's expectations.

The Rataa Sunset ones, i'm sorry but they look terrible.

In subscription games, time is money... if we had to be logged in while developing our own custom skins with in-game tools, CCP might make more than selling individual skins as they do now.

Hmm... careful what we ask for- until you've trained to level 5 on a plethora of design and painting skills, your skins look bad and peel off the hull at speeds faster than 2 AU/S

Seriously though, training skin skills would mean even more time in spent in EVE.

This would be awesome! If I could have a view of my ship in a window about the same size as the view in the fitting window (or a little smaller), that would be great.

So with the release of the Valklear SKINs which extend to Minmatar T2 hulls, will we be seeing an update to the Raata Sunset SKINs to include Caldari T2 hulls as well?

I want to take the Valklear Breacher home as a pet.

Theres one thing I think it would be nice for CCP to do. They could add an option for fw militia members to freely shift it's current ship skin to the one of the militia. It doesnt make much sense for a caldari pilot to fly with the gallentean eagle or with some tribal marking just because he prefers to fly ships of the opposite faction.
This could also only work while inside the militia. That way CCP retains the ability to capitalize on most of the other ship skins as they see fit (altough the ideal would be completely free player customization). Even if its just the logo, it could be a good starting test for future implementations.

When will these be getting released? I don't want to sound pushy but it soon after the release.