EVE General Discussion

Does it haz lazors?

*looks it up
Meh 64 player max network.
No lazors.
Even arma 3 haz lazors, and better network.
Guess you get what you pay for.

But lazors...

Now that, I have no rebuttal for.

As you were

Are you all ready for the incline in plex prices after the holidays?

Solid post. It is sad that EVE players need these sort of things explained to them. I always keep fooling myself into believing that our community has a higher standard.
I guess EVE needs more Darwin steps to filter people out more.

I just bought the lifetime expansion pass for Elite. Now I get all the support, bugifxes, expansions and such with no monthly cost.

The only additional cost will be a HTC vive when it comes out (and is confirmed compatible) so I can splode people in VR too.

Because smaller easier to kill ships means players stop PVPing when used in context of large fleet fights.

No one in their right mind is going to stage, plan, wait, move, wait, wait some more and three hours later get a fleet fight between hundreds of destroyers that instapop before even 1/10 the other fleet gets a lock on it.

3 hours of waiting and comms for 3 seconds of pvp... no thanks

At least with Capitals it takes a bit of time, there is a change of logistics and each boom is "special" and worth something.

Besides, ever tried to fight in TiDi in a Vengeance?

Make the fights smaller, then you can make the ships smaller in the fight.

I'm confused as to what you mean. I've already been playing since beta and the one time I have needed support I got it quickly. The expansion is already due for this year. I doubt I need to hope to get it, since it seems to be chugging along quite nicely. It's no different from here, hoping CCP don't bork the game every release, hoping that petitions don't sit unanswered for 3 months. the only difference is here people have to pay a fee (though plexing is much nicer these days).

The income from PI in highsec is so low i consider it negative income because you could make more isk per hour afk mining veldspar.

While i agree some things you can do in highsec probably need an income nerf most of what you can do in highsec pays very little. It isnt an overabundance of isk per hour that keeps so many in highsec its the serious reduction in encounters per hour with harassment that keeps so many in highsec.

Lowsec is the most lawless place to play EVE, no reasonable enticement is going to bring significantly more people to that type of environment.

That's part of it, sure.
Also, the different statements likely come from different people with different playstyles.

Personally, I find myself bored with arena-based multiplayer. As in, join a server with up to 63 other people also connected, your character gets loaded up, you PvP for a while, then you log off and go back to your PvE game. It works for a lot of games, of course - Quake Arena, TF2, CS, CoD, etc. But it's not for me. I would never want EVE artificially limited somehow so that only 64 could be involved in a fight. EVE is more dynamic, more flowing, more unpredictable - and therefore interesting and meaningful - than that.

What I'd love to see introduced into New Eden so that small gangs can have a chance against large ones is the concept of terrain. A logi buff is a force multiplier than helps large groups as much as, or more than, small groups. But terrain - cover, choke points, small areas of "high ground" - can help small gangs much more than large ones. Think of the 300 movie - imagine a deadspace pocket into which only five ships per minute can enter. Or anomalies that give HP/DPS buffs within a 1km radius, and the buffs get stronger then longer a ship is in range so that a small gang can set up there and stand a better chance of fighting off an approaching large gang if they have enough time to prepare. Or imagine a grid with warpable objects scattered all over the place so that a small nimble force can mobilize around a larger less coordinated gang and pick off vulnerable stragglers. (Some of this is impractical or unworkable or useless, but I'm trying to express the general idea, not necessarily present a solution of polished mechanics.)

So on equal terms - the larger force should prevail over the smaller. But it'd be cool to see ways to make a 5-person fleet as strong as a 10-person fleet, while a 100-person fleet only works like a 105-person fleet.